Need help one last time ..extra large check ball and small filter for valve body???
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From: Bakersfield,ca,us
Car: 91 z82
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Transmission: pro-built 700r4: 2400 stall
Need help one last time ..extra large check ball and small filter for valve body???
http://www.geocities.com/hecubus91/large_check_ball.htm
all done with the kit now I just need to put it all back together
well I am POSITIVE that all check ***** are in place where I have diagrams for but I have one left that came down with Valve body that Is larger than the rest and a Small cone filter that also came out {"check link for pic")
can any one help me??? thanks for any help
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"I spent all my money on race cars, beer, and Broads... The Rest I wasted"
all done with the kit now I just need to put it all back together
well I am POSITIVE that all check ***** are in place where I have diagrams for but I have one left that came down with Valve body that Is larger than the rest and a Small cone filter that also came out {"check link for pic")
can any one help me??? thanks for any help
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Governor screen top right of page, 3/8 ball leave out, bottom of page.
http://www.transonline.com/electroPu...fm?pageID=1486
The small cone filter is the governor screen, the large ball is the T.V. exhaust which is usually left out, I think later transmissions don't even have one.
[This message has been edited by Jay 727 (edited July 07, 2001).]
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Car: 91 z82
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ok that helps a lot thanks!!
then do you think I should leave it out then???? "the large check ball that is"
thanks again!
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"I spent all my money on race cars, beer, and Broads... The Rest I wasted"
then do you think I should leave it out then???? "the large check ball that is"
thanks again!
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"I spent all my money on race cars, beer, and Broads... The Rest I wasted"
I left one out while putting in a trans go kit in an '85 700. The '90 700 I have now has no pin on the tv bracket to unseat the ball and never came with one from the factory (ball or pin).
Anyway that site says you can just leave it out, I would.
Anyway that site says you can just leave it out, I would.
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Jay
could you put the links back up so that I can see wher that filter went??? ..... I havent finished putting it all back together yet and I will tomarrow
thanks for the help
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"I spent all my money on race cars, beer, and Broads... The Rest I wasted"
could you put the links back up so that I can see wher that filter went??? ..... I havent finished putting it all back together yet and I will tomarrow
thanks for the help
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"I spent all my money on race cars, beer, and Broads... The Rest I wasted"
Hey man, I have been trying to get an e-mail through to you for a few weeks now, have you seen them? Years back when I put a B&M shift kit in my old 700r4 , I remember one ball being left out also....
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1991 Camaro RS/Z28,polished TPI, 355ci. Sportsman 11 heads, LT-4 Hot cam,Pete Jackson gear drive, on,and on, and on... 13.4 @ 104.8 with a 2:77 rear, no traction, no tuning, no practice. Car is pictured in Chevy High Performance magazine, June 2000 issue.
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1997 GMC Yukon, 4 wheel drive, leather, loaded, Gibson exhaust, K&N intake, Boston pro series speakers..... That's it so far.
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Hey Jason
NO I haven't actually I hate web page email
I'll change service and let you know new adress
I'll leave out that large Check ball but I need to find where that Small filter went...Jay had a link to it but not there any more
anyone who has a link that would help alot
thanks
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"I spent all my money on race cars, beer, and Broads... The Rest I wasted"
NO I haven't actually I hate web page email
I'll change service and let you know new adress
I'll leave out that large Check ball but I need to find where that Small filter went...Jay had a link to it but not there any more
anyone who has a link that would help alot
thanks
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"I spent all my money on race cars, beer, and Broads... The Rest I wasted"
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It's not my site, it must be down right now, I'll try to scan something and post it for you ASAP.
Well my scanner quit working, keep trying the link above, sorry.
[This message has been edited by Jay 727 (edited July 08, 2001).]
Well my scanner quit working, keep trying the link above, sorry.
[This message has been edited by Jay 727 (edited July 08, 2001).]
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well damn I need to finish this today
can any one help I know that site is down and I cant see thoes diagrams??
and anyone confirm that it is ok to leave that larger check ball out???
ANYTHING will help thanks !
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"I spent all my money on race cars, beer, and Broads... The Rest I wasted"
can any one help I know that site is down and I cant see thoes diagrams??
and anyone confirm that it is ok to leave that larger check ball out???
ANYTHING will help thanks !
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The large checkball is used as an 'emergency backup' of the tv cable. What I mean is that if the tv cable snapped or something, it would set pressure to max so you would get extremely late and hard shifts, but not damage the trans. If you leave it out and the tv cable snapped you would have soft stacked shifts and would fry the trans in quick order because of the excess slipping. As long as you know this, you could leave the checkball out. It's designed to save the trans from people who don't know better, thats all...
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hmm that is two differant things now that people have said it's for ...
not to say that you are wrong at all !! , but now I have to wonder ....I dont want to leave it out and then be screwed later if I needed it ...
I also still dont know where that small cone filter goes ....
I'll keep checking that link that Jay found
can anyone else help please? thanks
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"I spent all my money on race cars, beer, and Broads... The Rest I wasted"
not to say that you are wrong at all !! , but now I have to wonder ....I dont want to leave it out and then be screwed later if I needed it ...
I also still dont know where that small cone filter goes ....

I'll keep checking that link that Jay found
can anyone else help please? thanks
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"I spent all my money on race cars, beer, and Broads... The Rest I wasted"
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I'll take a look and see if I can find it thanks
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I'll take a look and see if I can find it thanks
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this look like the cone filter location towards the back of the tranny??>>>>
http://www.geocities.com/hecubus91/large_check_ball.htm
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http://www.geocities.com/hecubus91/large_check_ball.htm
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The one in the back is for the governor feed and the one in the front is for the TCC feed. It won't be the end of the world if it doesn't go back in but I like them as a little insurance against a sticky valve. The Checkball is part of a failsafe system where if the TV cable is missadjusted or it breaks the ball seats and puts the tranny into max pressure/late shifts mode. I usually leave it out.
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If you guys ever get GM service manuals (from Helm, Inc) or the ATSG service manuals, the valve body pics show you where those filters go. I had one fall out on me when I did my shift kit; man, was I glad I had those books!
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so it's not that big of a deal If I leave the filter out ???
there wasn't a thing in it when it came down
I just thought there might some pressure issues or something
thanks
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there wasn't a thing in it when it came down
I just thought there might some pressure issues or something
thanks
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"I spent all my money on race cars, beer, and Broads... The Rest I wasted"
I like to use them but honestly allot of gyus don't bother (lazy). It is just there to catch a stray fleck of something that could stick the valve but if it gets past the main filter you might have bigger problems anyhow!
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