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Old Jun 27, 2001 | 12:15 AM
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what is double clutching

what is double clutching how does it benifit you in a drag and how do you do it

thanks for you help

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Old Jun 27, 2001 | 06:36 AM
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Double clutching is used to bring the input and output shafts to similar speeds to ease the shift. The idea is on upshifting, to push the clutch in, put in it neutral with the gas off, release the clutch, press the clutch again, then put it in the next gear.

To double clutch a downshift: Put the trans in neutral, release the clutch, rev the motor to the anticipated RPM of the downshift and press the clutch in and then downshift the trans and release the clutch.

This is used by big rigs hauling heavy loads. The amount of force to mesh the gears and the rpm difference is too much for the trans to allow smoothly if this isn't done. In cars and especially performance cars there is no need as we don't weigh in like the rigs and we have synchros that are more than up to the task

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Old Jun 27, 2001 | 11:59 AM
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this sounds like someone believed the fast and the furious..

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Old Jun 27, 2001 | 12:45 PM
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It is also used in Formula Fords when your tranny is FUBAR I spend 30 min double clutching, man did it suck! Well I did finish, so it was worth it.
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Old Jun 27, 2001 | 01:41 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Graeme'sFirebird:
this sounds like someone believed the fast and the furious..
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You mean someone actually went out and watched it????

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Old Jun 27, 2001 | 11:24 PM
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Graeme'sFirebird, for your information i did not see that movie, i heard the tearm on a siegnfield rerun when kramar was in the rig with that chick, and thank you all for the information

Bruce
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Old Jun 27, 2001 | 11:52 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DeadHero8:
what is double clutching
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It's when you take more than one hit before passing to the next guy.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.



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Old Jun 28, 2001 | 01:39 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by whiteroc:
It's when you take more than one hit before passing to the next guy.
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nah its always been puff-puff-pass
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Old Jun 28, 2001 | 01:57 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JoelOl75:
This is used by big rigs hauling heavy loads. The amount of force to mesh the gears and the rpm difference is too much for the trans to allow smoothly if this isn't done.</font>
Actually, you have to do it in semi's because the tranny's have a different gear style. They use a straight cut gear without syncronizers. Thats also why you can shift them very easily without the clutch. Start out on a hill with a good load and shifting an 18 speed trans = pushing the pedal 36 times just to get up to 60 mph. Of course with 18 speeds you can skip several if you have enough truck.
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Old Jun 29, 2001 | 10:45 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by whiterocz:
nah its always been puff-puff-pass</font>
Were are you from???

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Old Jun 30, 2001 | 04:47 PM
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As mentioned above, you only need to "double clutch" with a non-syncro tranny. If you had to "double clutch" in your car, then you need new syncros.
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Old Jun 30, 2001 | 08:55 PM
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I don't know what everbody's deal is on here with the fast and the furious. I saw, I been waiting since last fall to see it, I loved it. I want to see it again. Anybody who doesn't like that movie just sucks.

There is some silly stuff in it, but who cares it's a friggin movie.

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Old Jul 4, 2001 | 06:17 PM
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I thought it was having one beer in each hand.

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Old Jul 9, 2001 | 01:00 PM
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Old Jul 9, 2001 | 07:08 PM
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ok you dont have to double clutch a rig. i know i drive one. its how they teach you to drive a rig. supposed to be easier. but as said before i do what is called speed shifting, no clutch exept to take off. and double clutching on hills means disaster. youll never get it back in gear on steep inclines going up or down. you never shift gears on steep inclines. but anyway some of my friends refer to double clutching as, say your racing on street tires and dont want to smoke the tires. you bog it out of the whole then push the clutch back in stomp the gas and let your foot slide of the clutch. also works in second nicely.

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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 12:33 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by b92z28:
ok you dont have to double clutch a rig. ... but as said before i do what is called speed shifting, no clutch exept to take off. and double clutching on hills means disaster. youll never get it back in gear on steep inclines going up or down. you never shift gears on steep inclines.

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600 hp Cummins ISX and a RTX20718, There isn't a grade I can't shift on, up, down, with or without the clutch.

Shift a car trans without the clutch and all you are going to do is wear out the syncros prematurely. If it doesn't go smoothly then your looking at excelerated U-joint and rearend gear wear.
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