T-56 Clutch options
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,724
Likes: 1
From: NY sucks
Car: 84' Corvette, 96' Caprice
Engine: LT1, L99
Transmission: T-56, 4L60e
Axle/Gears: 3.07 POSI, 2.93 Open
T-56 Clutch options
I am im the process of doing my T-56 swap and i have run into a problem. I bought the T-56 with a clutch. The Clutch is claimed to be a McLeod and has about 12,000 miles on it. The clutch disc is in rough shape(at least i think so), the pressure plate is fine... I work at Advance Auto Parts and i have access to a perfection clutch kit for a little over $200, But i can get a new McLeod clutch disc for about 180.. My motor isn't near stock hp i just want something that will last, i don't want to burn up a clutch for awhile... What do you guys think is the way to go? Thanks!








Thread Starter
Supreme Member

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,724
Likes: 1
From: NY sucks
Car: 84' Corvette, 96' Caprice
Engine: LT1, L99
Transmission: T-56, 4L60e
Axle/Gears: 3.07 POSI, 2.93 Open
Re: T-56 Clutch options
Also it says "Valeo" on the cover with a number "382109-D0" and then a "P" with a circle around it.... What do you guys think?
Junior Member
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, Georgia
Car: 1989 Chevy Camaro RS
Engine: Proud V6 Owner
Transmission: 5 Speed
Axle/Gears: unk.
Re: T-56 Clutch options
Personally I have never heard of a Valieo Clutch..But here is the website for that clutch
http://www.valeoclutches.com/
As bad as that clutch looks, I would go with a new one...but thats me personally
http://www.valeoclutches.com/
As bad as that clutch looks, I would go with a new one...but thats me personally
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 858
Likes: 6
From: Elkton MD, USA
Car: 1985 Camaro Z28, VIN F
Engine: 427 sbc, HSR
Transmission: T-56, self rebuilt 700+ hp
Axle/Gears: Moser 12bolt, 3.42 trutrac
Re: T-56 Clutch options
Valeo mfg'd the OEM LT1/LT4 pressure plate, not the "clutch". McLeod uses the LT4 pressure plate with their clutch discs and flywheels.
I'd take the flywheel/PP to a shop and have them check/resurface them. If they clean up well, just get the replacement McLeod disc and you're good as new.
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,724
Likes: 1
From: NY sucks
Car: 84' Corvette, 96' Caprice
Engine: LT1, L99
Transmission: T-56, 4L60e
Axle/Gears: 3.07 POSI, 2.93 Open
Re: T-56 Clutch options
The LTx pull-type clutches were different than just about all other push-types on the market.
Valeo mfg'd the OEM LT1/LT4 pressure plate, not the "clutch". McLeod uses the LT4 pressure plate with their clutch discs and flywheels.
I'd take the flywheel/PP to a shop and have them check/resurface them. If they clean up well, just get the replacement McLeod disc and you're good as new.
Valeo mfg'd the OEM LT1/LT4 pressure plate, not the "clutch". McLeod uses the LT4 pressure plate with their clutch discs and flywheels.
I'd take the flywheel/PP to a shop and have them check/resurface them. If they clean up well, just get the replacement McLeod disc and you're good as new.
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 858
Likes: 6
From: Elkton MD, USA
Car: 1985 Camaro Z28, VIN F
Engine: 427 sbc, HSR
Transmission: T-56, self rebuilt 700+ hp
Axle/Gears: Moser 12bolt, 3.42 trutrac
Re: T-56 Clutch options
Even my $1200 Street Twin that holds 1000hp, uses the exact same PP. You have a very nice single-disc clutch kit there, you just need to replace the friction disc.
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,724
Likes: 1
From: NY sucks
Car: 84' Corvette, 96' Caprice
Engine: LT1, L99
Transmission: T-56, 4L60e
Axle/Gears: 3.07 POSI, 2.93 Open
Re: T-56 Clutch options
I am now having an issue doing the T-56 swap, i installed the Lt1 flywheel and it looks to small to me.... i was under the impression that you could reuse the original sbc starter but maybe you have to use an LT1 starter with the LT1 flywheel?.... The flywheel has a gap between the teeth and the starter,(a pretty big gap) Is the flywheel wrong or do i have to use an LT1 starter? Heres some pics to show the space in between the two...


Also in this pic is there a pilot bearing or bushing or both that goes into the center of the crank hole thing?(where the arrow is pointing) How does it go into the hole? just put the pilot bearing in there or the bearing then bushing? Any help would be apprecciated, Thanks!


Also in this pic is there a pilot bearing or bushing or both that goes into the center of the crank hole thing?(where the arrow is pointing) How does it go into the hole? just put the pilot bearing in there or the bearing then bushing? Any help would be apprecciated, Thanks!
Trending Topics
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 858
Likes: 6
From: Elkton MD, USA
Car: 1985 Camaro Z28, VIN F
Engine: 427 sbc, HSR
Transmission: T-56, self rebuilt 700+ hp
Axle/Gears: Moser 12bolt, 3.42 trutrac
Re: T-56 Clutch options
I am now having an issue doing the T-56 swap, i installed the Lt1 flywheel and it looks to small to me.... i was under the impression that you could reuse the original sbc starter but maybe you have to use an LT1 starter with the LT1 flywheel?.... The flywheel has a gap between the teeth and the starter,(a pretty big gap) Is the flywheel wrong or do i have to use an LT1 starter? Heres some pics to show the space in between the two...
Also in this pic is there a pilot bearing or bushing or both that goes into the center of the crank hole thing?(where the arrow is pointing) How does it go into the hole? just put the pilot bearing in there or the bearing then bushing? Any help would be apprecciated, Thanks!
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,724
Likes: 1
From: NY sucks
Car: 84' Corvette, 96' Caprice
Engine: LT1, L99
Transmission: T-56, 4L60e
Axle/Gears: 3.07 POSI, 2.93 Open
Re: T-56 Clutch options
You need to get a starter for a 153-tooth flywheel. Looks like your starter is for the larger (167?) tooth flywheel. What flywheel/flexplate did you have on before that used that starter?
Bearing OR Bushing.. Each has it's own +/-. A bushing will have slightly more drag on the pilot. A bearing can destroy itself and send metal bits around and possibly in the clutch.. You just tap the bearing or bushing in until it's flush with the crank surface
Bearing OR Bushing.. Each has it's own +/-. A bushing will have slightly more drag on the pilot. A bearing can destroy itself and send metal bits around and possibly in the clutch.. You just tap the bearing or bushing in until it's flush with the crank surface
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,724
Likes: 1
From: NY sucks
Car: 84' Corvette, 96' Caprice
Engine: LT1, L99
Transmission: T-56, 4L60e
Axle/Gears: 3.07 POSI, 2.93 Open
Re: T-56 Clutch options
It always used that style starter, never changed the flexplate....
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 858
Likes: 6
From: Elkton MD, USA
Car: 1985 Camaro Z28, VIN F
Engine: 427 sbc, HSR
Transmission: T-56, self rebuilt 700+ hp
Axle/Gears: Moser 12bolt, 3.42 trutrac
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,724
Likes: 1
From: NY sucks
Car: 84' Corvette, 96' Caprice
Engine: LT1, L99
Transmission: T-56, 4L60e
Axle/Gears: 3.07 POSI, 2.93 Open
Re: T-56 Clutch options
No i'm not paranoid i'm just wondering what YOU think is the better option...
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 741
Likes: 0
From: Azusa, CA
Car: 92 Z28 Camaro
Engine: Procharged 406.
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser 9" 4.11 Gears
Re: T-56 Clutch options
Get a bushing. Also the Mcleod disc you have is called the 800 series disc. That disc was phased out by Mcleod for a superior 500 series disc. Your replacement is 261571.
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,724
Likes: 1
From: NY sucks
Car: 84' Corvette, 96' Caprice
Engine: LT1, L99
Transmission: T-56, 4L60e
Axle/Gears: 3.07 POSI, 2.93 Open
Re: T-56 Clutch options
So i should use the 2nd one?
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...40+4294865905+
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 741
Likes: 0
From: Azusa, CA
Car: 92 Z28 Camaro
Engine: Procharged 406.
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser 9" 4.11 Gears
Re: T-56 Clutch options
So i should use the 2nd one?
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...40+4294865905+
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...40+4294865905+
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,724
Likes: 1
From: NY sucks
Car: 84' Corvette, 96' Caprice
Engine: LT1, L99
Transmission: T-56, 4L60e
Axle/Gears: 3.07 POSI, 2.93 Open
Re: T-56 Clutch options
Also i cut the holes for the master cylinder today and i rough fitted the master..( yes i know the bolts can't be used, they were only for getting it into place.... but also i am wondering... the master sits on a bump.... does it have to be flattened or will it do that on its own when its torqued down? If you look on the pic the left side of the master doesn't fit flat against the body.....
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,724
Likes: 1
From: NY sucks
Car: 84' Corvette, 96' Caprice
Engine: LT1, L99
Transmission: T-56, 4L60e
Axle/Gears: 3.07 POSI, 2.93 Open
Re: T-56 Clutch options
Also anyone know where u can get the U-bolt for the master? I haven't tried a dealer yet but i tried "GMpartsdirect.com" and its on backorder through them..... that's the only thing i need to finish off the pedals.
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,724
Likes: 1
From: NY sucks
Car: 84' Corvette, 96' Caprice
Engine: LT1, L99
Transmission: T-56, 4L60e
Axle/Gears: 3.07 POSI, 2.93 Open
Re: T-56 Clutch options
Ok well i just called a GM dealership and they directed me to a dealership in Indiana called "Reeves" who had one in stock and i am having them ship it to me. Its going to cost me about $30 but i don't mind paying money for it to help them out a little bit. (not that $30 will make or break them) but at least i bought it rather then complain about the price. haha but i'm pumped its on its way though.
Supreme Member
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,391
Likes: 1
From: Newark, DE
Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
Re: T-56 Clutch options
The master cylinder for the clutch typically mounts to a bracket that hangs off one of the brake master cylinder studs. I grabbed a bracket for a T5 car from a junkyard and it works fine. Are you using stock GM hydraulics?
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,724
Likes: 1
From: NY sucks
Car: 84' Corvette, 96' Caprice
Engine: LT1, L99
Transmission: T-56, 4L60e
Axle/Gears: 3.07 POSI, 2.93 Open
Re: T-56 Clutch options
I'm using fourth gen pedals, with the full hydraulics slave/master/reservoir all pre-bled from TPI parts....
Supreme Member
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,391
Likes: 1
From: Newark, DE
Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
Re: T-56 Clutch options
Is there enough slack in the line running to the master to located it on the outboard side of the brake master cylinder stud (the factory 3rd gen bracket goes under the nut that holds that brake master to the power booster)? If so I'd round up that bracket and just do it that way.
I used 3rd gen pedals becasue they were easy to come by in junk yards around here. Except for cutting the holes for the clutch pushrod and the shifter everything was a bolt in deal (minus some wiring and the custom x-member I bought from Skulte).
I used 3rd gen pedals becasue they were easy to come by in junk yards around here. Except for cutting the holes for the clutch pushrod and the shifter everything was a bolt in deal (minus some wiring and the custom x-member I bought from Skulte).
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Drone358
Transmissions and Drivetrain
4
Dec 10, 2015 08:16 PM
tonys91rs
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
3
Oct 10, 2015 03:31 PM
Night rider327
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
0
Sep 2, 2015 04:17 AM






