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Old May 21, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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9 bolt specs

i took out my rear end because im doing a complete restoration of my car and noticed it is a 9 bolt when i thought it was a 10 bolt. any specs on this rear?
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Old May 21, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Car: 86 Firebird
Engine: 305 SBC
Transmission: 700 R4 TCI
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: 9 bolt specs

Oh yeah


Now for the bad news. If you have the GM nine bolt Borg Warner BTR 78 7.75 inch ring gear that came in the IROC and GTA you are SOL amigo. No one in the world not Australia, or Japan or England or New Zealand or Canada or anywhere makes a Helical gear LSD for that @$#@#$ rear end which I myself have. You can get the Borg Warner made stock cone type maybe somewhere, or an expensive German made clutch disc type ( More than a currie 9 inch with a truetrac expensive I kid you not.) LSD for it and a Aussie Ford bit that might work for like $800 bucks US other than that no joy. I'm gonna toss mine and get a Ford 9 inch for it probably from Currie. Moser and Strange among others have other options for you. You could salvage a 10 inch from a lesser vehicle and get a Truetrac for it, and save some cash, a good choice would be a 4 th gen V8 10 bolt with the good discs on it.

Lastly some specs on the GM 9 bolt.
AXLE INFO
REAR - GM 9 BOLT 7.75"

AXLE POSITION
REAR


PINION TYPE
STANDARD




COVER BOLTS
9.0

AXLE SPLINE COUNT
N/A

RATIO TO USE LOW RATIO CASE
3.23

RING GEAR DIAMETER
7.75

PINION SHAFT DIAMETER
1.38

RING GEAR BOLT QTY - SIZE
8.0

PINION SPLINES
27.0


http://www.accuautoparts.com/axledes...xleid=G775REAR

Hope this helps some of yall.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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Axle/Gears: Dana M78 3.27 posi
Re: 9 bolt specs

http://www.9bolt.com/
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Old May 21, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Re: 9 bolt specs

since i dont plan on having the car on the road within the next few years im gonna get a mosher 9 inch but was wondering what i should try and get for this one. the gears are very good in it still from what i could see.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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Re: 9 bolt specs

I've seen them sold for $200-$300....I've seen people have to GIVE them away.

I guess it depends on the area & if anybody is wanting one.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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Re: 9 bolt specs

also thought about cutting off all brackets and getting a bigger rear end out of an older car and cutting the shafts to length but probably better to sell it and put it towards a currie or mosher
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Old May 21, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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Re: 9 bolt specs

How about......

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/afte...bolt-posi.html
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Old May 21, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Re: 9 bolt specs

Originally Posted by Stephen
Nope didn't happen they did make one for the GTO that is almost $900 bucks and didn't make one that fits the BTR 78 we have. Been there done that one already. Honestly been to Aussie sites and everywhere looked for days on the internet there is nothing anywhere except what it has already and a High dollar German clutch type LSD that was 1500 something Euro which is like 2 grand US. Your options are swap or rebuild. I'm thinking swap for a late model truck 10 bolt with the 8.5 ring gear and getting a Truetrac for that.
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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Re: 9 bolt specs

I've been searching around for a cheaper option than the one I've found for the Truetrac in the BW m78 diff. It appears I'm not going to find any as it looks like you guys have exhausted all avenues over there.

Here in Australia there is a company called Harrop Engineering and they do the Truetrac for the M78. The price is $1540 Aussie, which would be quite expensive for you guys with the way the $ is at the moment. here's the link...

http://www.harrop.com.au/products/dr...rc9492-00.html

I think you'll want the VL - VR model at the bottom of the page.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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Hmmmnnnnnn that would be great however when I talked to EATON they said they didn't make one. So hopefully this is correct. Since they are made here if I can get a part number.....
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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Re: 9 bolt specs

You are correct, Eaton don't make them to suit. Herrod Engineering modifies them to suit our Aussie cars, so you won't get them directly from Eaton. If you can find out which centre they start with, then take it to an Engineering shop with a standard centre, you may be able to get them to modify it for you. I'm sure the potential would be there for them to do a lot of these if they were to work it out. I'd imagine they'd use a 7.5" centre and modify the mounting flange. Any engineers on the forum?
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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Ah now that is one hell of a good idea thanks Buddy!
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