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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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The mother of all rear ends.

Hey guys, I finally received my rear end after weeks and weeks of wait. Its a Midwest Chassis unit. Ford 9" Aluminum third member, 31 splines, true trac, 4.11, Ford Torinon big bearing flanges to allow C6Z brakes and a functionnal E-brake. I got the brake bracket kit from Kore3.

This thing is a piece of art, it comes with the adjustable torque arm and a tranny crossmember similar to the BMR trak pak unit. I still have to fit it under the car and weld it but the rear is in. It even has built on housing LCA relocators.

Im almost done modifying the coil spring mounts to install my rear air bags.
Ill let the pics to the rest of the talking. More pics on page 7 of my cardomain.

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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

I saw a speck of dust! New Pics Please.... Car Domain link not working....

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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

So heres the question everyone wants to know,

What did it cost you from those guys?

Im looking to do the exact same thing lol

Lookin good.
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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looks badass
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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That rear end looks gorgeous
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

Originally Posted by BadaPwned
So heres the question everyone wants to know,

What did it cost you from those guys?

Im looking to do the exact same thing lol

Lookin good.
Thanks for the comments guys, I knew you would like it.
As far as costs go, those rear starts @ 2600$. Then you add, powdercoating, aluminum third member, backbrace... It got me to 3400$ including torque arm and the crossmember shipped.

I think its a great deal consider what youre getting. Adjustable torque arms arms are about 350-450$ and Im not even talking of the crossbar. That being said, its still a lot of money, but Id rather pay the price, but pay it once and be done with it.

The unit is 100% bolt on (yeah yeah I know) and fits with every oem or performance pieces.
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

u paid more for the rear then i did for my intire car man holy crap hope ur going to have the power in the motor that the rear is built for.. nice
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 10:56 PM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

I always wondered with these trick aftermarket rear ends... what do you do about brake lines? Just roll your own? And what about where the junction block bolts to the rear end? What do you do about that? just hang it somewhere and plug the hole the mounting bolt used to go to? Or do they usually have a mounting pad as part of marketing them to our cars?
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 01:26 AM
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I see the line from the chassis to the rear already on the rear, its mounted to one of the studs for the diff. Some sort of L bracket I'd imagine. Then he's on his own from there to the flex lines on the calipers it looks like.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

Any shots of the other end of the torque arm? Would like to see how different it is from a Fab9 setup which comes with trans crossmember.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

That's intense!
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 04:10 PM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

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Any shots of the other end of the torque arm? Would like to see how different it is from a Fab9 setup which comes with trans crossmember.
From Midwest Chassis's website.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

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I see the line from the chassis to the rear already on the rear, its mounted to one of the studs for the diff. Some sort of L bracket I'd imagine. Then he's on his own from there to the flex lines on the calipers it looks like.
You're right, Ill have to build hardlines from the T fitting to the braided lines mounted on the calipers.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 04:21 PM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

I believe going with the fabricated 9" housing is the way to go. Im sure a majority of people would think the same thing. I just don't like how the stock 9"s have that rounded housing, just not that cosmetically pleasing.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

That piece is a thing of beauty and I have to concur with a previous comment on here; you spent more on that rear than I spent on my whole car. but you may as well do it right the first time....
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 12:39 AM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

Originally Posted by Spike-Z
From Midwest Chassis's website.
Ok i see, looks like the torque arm has its own crossmember to attach to, which also includes the driveshaft loop, thanks for the pic.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 02:06 AM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

looks sexyyyy! nice rear! (no homo)

but only 31spline axels? whyyyyyyyy i woulda went at least 33 spline... that rear is fabricated and built to handle wayyy more than the 31 spline axels can withstand.

all in all nice rear... but for that price id go with the moser fabricated M9 housing!
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

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looks sexyyyy! nice rear! (no homo)

but only 31spline axels? whyyyyyyyy i woulda went at least 33 spline... that rear is fabricated and built to handle wayyy more than the 31 spline axels can withstand.

all in all nice rear... but for that price id go with the moser fabricated M9 housing!
if he didnt need 33's then he shouldnt get them seeing how it increases hp/torque drivetrain loss. the smaller the spline axel u can get away with the less drivetrain loss u will have.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

Originally Posted by chas0218
if he didnt need 33's then he shouldnt get them seeing how it increases hp/torque drivetrain loss. the smaller the spline axel u can get away with the less drivetrain loss u will have.
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Chas is right. Plus these true trac are notorious for application up to 700-800rwhp
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

I want it, no no, I want it to have my kids. Geez that this is sexy!!!!!!!!!
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

So this rear end looks like moser's M9 for the fBody. Any way my question is does have the same type torque arm. When you installed it did it have a sliding type front link that hooks to the transmission cross member?
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

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You're right, Ill have to build hardlines from the T fitting to the braided lines mounted on the calipers.
Seems a little lame that they can build all that, but not supply the 2 tubes for the brakes. If somebody is spending $2600+ on an axle, they won't be wanting to reuse their stock brake lines & not everybody has the tools needed to bend & flare their own brake tubes.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 08:50 PM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

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Seems a little lame that they can build all that, but not supply the 2 tubes for the brakes. If somebody is spending $2600+ on an axle, they won't be wanting to reuse their stock brake lines & not everybody has the tools needed to bend & flare their own brake tubes.
that may be somehat true, but iim sure there are many different brake configuration people would be using and stocking a variety of different brake lines wouldn't be cost effective.

I think its safe to say that somebody dropping that kind of coin on a rear will have the tools, or other means to deal with the brake lines. seriously, flaring tools cost under 20bux.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 09:21 AM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

I bought the Eastwood 1 action flaring tool. I had to build new lines for the entire car anyways. and like 86TA said, theres tons of brake application when you go with those custom rear ends. So youre just better off bending your own lines, everyone can do a better job then off the shelf lines. I made mine to really hug the housing and not be noticeable when looking out the back.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 02:03 PM
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

That thing is a beauty, great components cost great amounts of money. But figuring you got close to a 1000 dollars worth of suspension components its not too bad!
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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i refuse to buy prebent lines, i always make my own lines. I even use the 19$ flaring tool kit from harbor frieght lol. Ive busted maybe 3 kits already but ive gotten it down to where ive allowed the last kit to last a while. I found preheating the line end before flaring helps a great deal. Not to mention making your own lines is great bc you can always make it fit your application/make it easier for maintenence.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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That thing is a beauty, great components cost great amounts of money. But figuring you got close to a 1000 dollars worth of suspension components its not too bad!

1000$ of suspension components is nothing! ive gotten more than that in mine, UMI double rod end LCAs, UMI double rod end panhard bar, custom shorty adjustable tq arm with rod ends, struts, shocks, hotpart strut tower strut mounts, 2 custom sets of SFC, 8pt roll bar, springs, wonderbar, poly everything.

I have to say again that rear is sooo nice. I however love the look of my massive aluminum moser support girdle on my ford 8.8 that just makes the rear look nasty! And you kinda loose that with this rear. still tho its a frigin nasty rear.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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Looks nice! whats the rest of your drive line specs?
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1000$ of suspension components is nothing! ive gotten more than that in mine, UMI double rod end LCAs, UMI double rod end panhard bar, custom shorty adjustable tq arm with rod ends, struts, shocks, hotpart strut tower strut mounts, 2 custom sets of SFC, 8pt roll bar, springs, wonderbar, poly everything.

I have to say again that rear is sooo nice. I however love the look of my massive aluminum moser support girdle on my ford 8.8 that just makes the rear look nasty! And you kinda loose that with this rear. still tho its a frigin nasty rear.
I know it is nothing. Im just saying since it came with 1000 worth of suspension components the rear end cost doesnt seem as high at all! im right there with you on suspension components!
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 07:32 PM
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thats very true!

i'd like to know what kinda motor hes going to be running with this setup to spend that kinda money on the rear
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 02:02 PM
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Its a great rearend. I have installed a few of them.
I have been to Erics shop several times. You should see the stuff lined up to be shipped out all the time !
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Re: The mother of all rear ends.

Originally Posted by FueledSoul
Looks nice! whats the rest of your drive line specs?
Was a stockish 346cu LSx thru a T56. Now its going to have a fully forged 346 11.xx compression. Still shopping heads and cams. Going to be bottle fed.
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Was a stockish 346cu LSx thru a T56. Now its going to have a fully forged 346 11.xx compression. Still shopping heads and cams. Going to be bottle fed.




Sounds great!
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