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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 01:24 AM
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What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

well what is needed to make it work?
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

A 26 spline input shaft T5
extended pilot bearing
LS_ flywheel and clutch

hyd. TO bearing is one way to do the clutch release. Howe and others make them to fit the T5 throwout bearing retainer sleeve.
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 12:15 AM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

update on this? Wanting to do a similure project
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 08:28 AM
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Engine: LG4 ->L29, L32->LR4, L36, LG4, L31
Transmission: 700R-4, T5WC, 4L80E, SM465, 4L60E
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

The problem is the bellhousing, the T5 one won't clear the LSx 168-tooth flywheel, you'd need a Sachs #1050 flywheel, the GM bells that will clear the flywheel won't work in this application, and the aftermarket steel bells that'll do both are around $ 500. The one Lakewood has been making for 20+ years should work, pn 15020, there's newer modular ones that cost even more, and there's another brand out there now.

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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 09:25 AM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

You can use a 621 bellhousing. They go for around $250, its an old one from 60's big block chevys I think. But the T5 is mounted at an angle, so the shifter will be 18 degrees off so you will need to figure that out
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 10:13 AM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

okay I am ganna try the 621 bell housing I can find them on eBay for around 150 plus I found some local for 50. so then just ls flywheel and clutch with t5 throw out bearing?
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Old Nov 24, 2015 | 08:20 AM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Originally Posted by dbrochard
You can use a 621 bellhousing. They go for around $250, its an old one from 60's big block chevys I think. But the T5 is mounted at an angle, so the shifter will be 18 degrees off so you will need to figure that out
NO, you can't use that, it can't accommodate our clutch release hydraulics. Plus the reproduction one isn't even the correct depth. Stop posting bad info.
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 05:06 AM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Originally Posted by cosmick
NO, you can't use that, it can't accommodate our clutch release hydraulics. Plus the reproduction one isn't even the correct depth. Stop posting bad info.
So the 621 will not work? I've been searching and trying to find what will work.
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 07:51 AM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Its been done with the 621:

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=595.0
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 07:59 AM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Any updates on this? Ive got a buddy with a 4.8/t5 in a regal but he did the swap about 4 years ago and cant remember all the parts.
I just ordered an ls1 flywheel from rockauto (Brute 502711 for $63) and plan on mounting my t5 to my 5.3.
I also ordered an ls7 pilot bushing.
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 08:00 AM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Originally Posted by cosmick
NO, you can't use that, it can't accommodate our clutch release hydraulics. Plus the reproduction one isn't even the correct depth. Stop posting bad info.
Im sure theres gotta be a way to fab something for the thirdgen hydraulics to work with the 621 bellhousing?
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 09:00 PM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Sure. Fab a slave mount bracket & TIG it on.

Or

Originally Posted by jmd
Keep your eyes peeled for a used. Lakewood 15020.
It keeps everything T5 thirdgen compatible.
The 621 lacks the mounting angle of the third gen.
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Old Sep 21, 2016 | 05:03 AM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Hows progress with these projects ?
I'm currently doing this swap , 5.3 , 621 bell , T5 . it all bolts together nice , will be using a concentric slave cylinder for the clutch , got one sorted ( nothing to fab ) gearbox sits straight not on an angle but can't see any probe with that , just to make an angled adaptor for the mount .
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Old Oct 20, 2016 | 02:26 PM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Originally Posted by IROCDOWNUNDER
Hows progress with these projects ?
I'm currently doing this swap , 5.3 , 621 bell , T5 . it all bolts together nice , will be using a concentric slave cylinder for the clutch , got one sorted ( nothing to fab ) gearbox sits straight not on an angle but can't see any probe with that , just to make an angled adaptor for the mount .
Still gathering parts for my 5.3 swap but all I need tranny wise is a clutch and the Howe hydraulic tob. Is there a difference between the ls1 clutch and a v8 t5 clutch?
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Old Oct 20, 2016 | 08:22 PM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Yes. Same main drive/disc spline. Different sizes and bolt pattern otherwise.
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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 04:02 AM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Originally Posted by armybyrd
Still gathering parts for my 5.3 swap but all I need tranny wise is a clutch and the Howe hydraulic tob. Is there a difference between the ls1 clutch and a v8 t5 clutch?
Very simple , all you need is a complete LS1 flywheel and clutch from what would have been used on a T56 , the 26spline on the clutch plate is same as T5 ,
You need to bolt up your flywheel and complete clutch then fit bell housing only so you can work out the distance from pressure plate fingers to rear of bell housing / front of gearbox . Some flywheel / clutch combinations are different so this distance will vary .
I'm not going with a Howe hydraulic throw out bearing as they are to long for my configuration , I have purchased a Speedway unit off Ebay , these are shorter .
I'm still quite a few weeks away from having this project up and running , can't wait though .
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Old Nov 19, 2016 | 05:24 PM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Originally Posted by IROCDOWNUNDER
I'm still quite a few weeks away from having this project up and running , can't wait though .
Have you made any progress on your installation? I curious what you did to solve the shifter issue.

Thanks
John
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Old Nov 20, 2016 | 03:06 AM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Originally Posted by RT66ProTouring
Have you made any progress on your installation? I curious what you did to solve the shifter issue.

Thanks
John
Hi John ... sorry progress has been slow , Ive been a bit tied up with work , Motor/gearbox is complete and will be dropped into the car hopefully next week , as for the shifter I don't see any issues ? but will have to heat and bend it a little as the gearbox now sits level

Shane
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Old Nov 21, 2016 | 07:18 PM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Hello all I am new to the forum and just purchased a 84 z28. Its an automatic with a 305. I am pulling the 305 and installing a 5.3 with cam and ported heads. I would like a manual trans. T56 is not in budget(1500-2500). I can get a world class t5 for a good price. I wont be drag racing, just a few burnouts and fun driving on the freeway and open country roads. Justba powerful cruiser for family fun. Will the WC t5 work. I was told it wont hold up, but im wondering if thats just for drag racing
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Old Nov 22, 2016 | 12:14 PM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Thanks Shane.

Would appreciate an update when you complete the install. Biggest question I have is if bending the shift lever is enough to solve it. Any pics you could share would be great.

Thanks again.
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 06:33 PM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Not LS but...
I ran T5 behind my stock, then bolt on 350. It shifted great and held up for a couple of years. Then one day shifting into 3rd it broke the input shaft. Upon disassembly the input shaft was not factory, it had broke before in a past life.
I installed a TKO 600 which has held up through that 350 and now a 414 SBC which makes 400 WHP. It's good but not as smooth shifting as the T5. I spent about $3500 for the new trans.
If I were putting a stick behind a LS I would go T56. Its strong enough and factory so it fits with factory parts and shifts good. Either stick or auto I would expect to spend $3-4k. If it was mine I would probably go auto. Shifting is "fun" but auto is better in every other respect Every time I have gone the "economy" route I have ended up spending more in the end than just doing it right the first time. Lesson learned.

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Old Feb 10, 2017 | 08:18 AM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Just joined the forum to post in this thread. I'm building an '85 z28 for the 24 hours of Lemons series so it is a budget constrained build. The car came as a roller with a t5 and I picked up a complete 5.3 for cheap. Bought a Lakewood 15020 for the safety aspect since I'll be using a used ls1 clutch (budget again), a 4.8 truck flywheel and an ls7/ls2 pilot bearing.

When putting it all together we ended up having to grind down these four bolts to clear the housing and the bottom two bolts for the oil pan bolts will need to be drilled out.

We'll hopefully be dropping the whole setup in the car next week.
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Old Feb 10, 2017 | 01:18 PM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Originally Posted by cosmick
NO, you can't use that, it can't accommodate our clutch release hydraulics. Plus the reproduction one isn't even the correct depth. Stop posting bad info.
cosmick ole chap you need to get out and about a bit more .... you can buy everything for this set up and simply bolt together with NO modifications at all.
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Old Feb 10, 2017 | 03:01 PM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

I'm guessing you'll be using a 26 spline t5?
I was originally going to do this swap in my thirdgen but have since decided to lsx swap my C4 instead.
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Old Apr 13, 2017 | 02:02 PM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Have you ran into any exhaust clearance issues?
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Old May 17, 2017 | 10:30 PM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

Originally Posted by Bowtieguy87
Have you ran into any exhaust clearance issues?
we ended up running side pipes, not pretty but they work for a racecar. Also we were on a roll back because we lunched 2nd gear on a harsh downshift.
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Old Oct 17, 2022 | 04:08 PM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

with the sachs 1050 and lakewood bell what throwout bearing would be needed? is the a clutch you would recommend?
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Old Oct 17, 2022 | 04:25 PM
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Re: What's need to mate a T5 to a 5.3???

I bought a complete T5 set-up from a guy a couple years ago that converted his 92 Z28 L98 to an LS. He modified the original T5 bellhousing to bolt up the the motor. ( then pulled the T5 and converted to an automatic when the car was passed along to his wife. ) It's the only time I've ever seen someone customize the original T5 bellhousing to work on an LS engine. These are the only pics I could find at the moment,... I've still got the bell housing buried in the garage somewhere.






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