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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 07:51 AM
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whining sound when coasting

I recently swapped a 4th gen rear end into my 84 Z28. I have noticed a whining or humming when I am coasting above about 30 mph. The sound is not present under acceleration or at low neighborhood speeds. I thought it was the axle bearings, so I changed them. But, the sound is still there. Could it have something to do with the crush sleve? What else could it be?
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 07:55 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

U-joints
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 08:08 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

I would look at the easy things first.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 08:12 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

the U joints on the yoke?
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 08:14 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

Yes sir on the drive line.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 08:19 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

what can I do to fix the U-joints?
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 08:20 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

I did have a small leak coming from the middle of the yoke around the nut.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 08:21 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

And the drive shaft is the same. I didn't have the noise prior to the rear end swap.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 08:23 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

Did you pull the cover off the differential cover and look. See if there is metal flakes in the oil.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 08:30 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

yes and they looked great. I replaced the gasket and fluid with Royal Purple. So significant shavings and the teeth looked fine.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 08:54 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

Is this differential a posi? if so you need to use the posi additive with your oil.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 09:14 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

yes it is a posi, but you don't need additive w/Royal Purple. A few weeks ago I had some conventional gear oil and some posi additive and it still made the noise. Could the crush sleeve on the pinion be an issue? again, the leak comes from the pinion nut area and I already changed the front seal. When I took off the yoke I did not change the crush sleeve. i just market the nut and yoke and put it back to the same spot.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 10:08 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

Gear pattern may not have been set up correctly. There is a drive pattern where the pinion to ring gear teeth touch under power and there is a coast pattern under coasting.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 10:13 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

It might be your pre-load on the pinion, did you follow the recommended procedure for removing and installing your yoke.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 10:17 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

Nope, how do you set the pre-load? Can you do it with the rear end still on the car?
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 11:10 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

Well the procedure starts when you remove the yoke nut to start with. We must of missed that step. How tight did you crank the yoke nut down.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 11:14 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

just back to the origional line. I marked it prior to taking it off.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 11:35 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

Can I change it out for a spacer instead?
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

I only removed the nut and the yoke during the seal change. i don't think I messed with the pre-load during the seal change. Can I fix by just replacing the crush sleve?

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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 12:26 PM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

If you tightened to the original mark you should have the correct pre-load.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 12:30 PM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

ok, then what could be making the noise?
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 12:48 PM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

I don't know for sure without being there. Could the pinion bearing be worn out? How many miles on the donor car?
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 12:53 PM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

idk, junk yard part
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 01:01 PM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

is there a way to check the pinion bearing while on the car? or do I have to take out the differential to check it?
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

Originally Posted by pimpimusmaximus
ok, then what could be making the noise?
A sucking noise from not reading or responding to suggestions already made.
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Old Sep 19, 2012 | 05:48 PM
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Re: whining sound when coasting

A factory service manual would help you. If you don't mind reading.
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