Transmissions and Drivetrain Need help with your trans? Problems with your axle?

How tough can a 700r4 be built

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 27, 2013 | 03:06 AM
  #1  
MetalObsession's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Car: 1984 z28 2006DodgeDieselMegacab4X4
Engine: Just the 305HO for now
Transmission: 770-r4
How tough can a 700r4 be built

So i was just wondering what the actual potential of a 700r4 is. Ive heard they cant be built tough enough to handle more than like 400hp at best. I hope thats not right. Any one know??
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2013 | 08:28 AM
  #2  
vetteoz's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 7,736
Likes: 14
From: Not in Kansas anymore
Car: 82 Z28
Engine: 383 SP EFI/ 4150 TB
Transmission: T400
Axle/Gears: QP 9" 3.73
Re: How tough can a 700r4 be built

How much do you prepared to spend?

http://www.transmissioncenter.net/highperf700r4.htm
http://www.transmissioncenter.net/700MegaRaptor.htm
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2013 | 10:22 AM
  #3  
Dyno Don's Avatar
Supreme Member
25 Year Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 5,703
Likes: 132
From: Orange, CA
Car: '90 Trans Am-12.45@110.71
Engine: 355 w/AFR 195's Elem. 400/430 HP/TQ
Transmission: Tremec T-56
Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt 3.73
Re: How tough can a 700r4 be built

Sure, but no one will tell you for how long.
Because third gear is the weak link and HP & TQ will eventually kill it.
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2013 | 09:25 AM
  #4  
BlueChevyZ's Avatar
Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 187
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, FL
Car: '84 Z 28 RIP, Red 87 Iroc
Engine: has 8 cylinders
Transmission: has a stick coming out of it
Axle/Gears: no more pegleg
Re: How tough can a 700r4 be built

I've gone thru 2 700s, 1 was a basic perf rebuild, and 2nd was a full stage 2 with all the goodies, neither lasted behind a 383 stroker, have switched to a T56
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2013 | 06:12 PM
  #5  
MetalObsession's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Car: 1984 z28 2006DodgeDieselMegacab4X4
Engine: Just the 305HO for now
Transmission: 770-r4
Re: How tough can a 700r4 be built

I would spend whatever i had to if i knew it would handle like 500hp. The reason why im askin is cuz im learning that tranny is comp controlled so i cant take off a lot of what i wanted to(emission, smog, all that stuff) without disabiling the tranny and its functions.
I wanted to be able pop the hood and just see an old school v-8 with headers and a fat carb. With an msd ignition being the most complicated thing in there. I guess the 770r4 wont like that.
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2013 | 06:23 PM
  #6  
sofakingdom's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Community Builder
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 27,819
Likes: 2,406
Car: Yes
Engine: Usually
Transmission: Sometimes
Axle/Gears: Behind me somewhere
Re: How tough can a 700r4 be built

The 700-R4 isn't computer-controlled, except for the torque converter clutch.

Not sure about any 770-R4 though; never heard of that one. But I'm just a n00b and still learning, so maybe that kind is different?
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2013 | 07:32 PM
  #7  
joshc's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 255
Likes: 4
From: Watertown NY
Car: 1986 Trans Am
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Re: How tough can a 700r4 be built

No computer controls on a 700r4, only controls torque converter lockup.
You can get an aftermarket kit to control torque converter lockup with out the computer if you go that route.
Talk to Dana at Probuilt automatics, he is very knowledgeable about building performance 700r4's.
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2013 | 09:02 PM
  #8  
Pro Built Automatics's Avatar
Supreme Member
25 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 3,478
Likes: 54
From: Calimesa, California, U.S.
Re: How tough can a 700r4 be built

I have helped hundreds of people over the years supplying them with the right parts for their 700R4's and 4L60E's. A few went into the nines, more in the tens, and many more in the elevens and twelves in the quarter mile, and getting many hundreds of passes without problems. They can be built very successfully when using the right parts, keeping the shifts smooth at part throttle, matching shift firmness to torque input on the 1-2 WOT shift, torque converter diameter and stall, how you drive and what the vehicle is intended for.
Reply
Old Sep 29, 2013 | 12:08 PM
  #9  
rusty vango's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,036
Likes: 5
From: knoxville tn
Car: 86 IROC
Engine: 5.0 TPI
Transmission: 700-R-4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 open
Re: How tough can a 700r4 be built

Originally Posted by MetalObsession
I would spend whatever i had to if i knew it would handle like 500hp. The reason why im askin is cuz im learning that tranny is comp controlled so i cant take off a lot of what i wanted to(emission, smog, all that stuff) without disabiling the tranny and its functions.
I wanted to be able pop the hood and just see an old school v-8 with headers and a fat carb. With an msd ignition being the most complicated thing in there. I guess the 770r4 wont like that.
if you want a "old school" car .then go buy one.too many people ask this BS question ."how much equipment can I rip off my car?? I only want to see engine and a big ol carb"
and the 700 is not comp controlled.i really hate to see an otherwise nice 3rd gen "school boyed" to death.might I suggest a nice Hyundai??
Reply
Old Sep 29, 2013 | 12:56 PM
  #10  
articwhiteZ's Avatar
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (56)
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,776
Likes: 101
From: Spokane WA
Car: 92 Lingenfelter Z28 articwhite
Engine: Aluminum 615BBC
Transmission: Th400wbrake/curri entps9" locker
Axle/Gears: 4.11/4.30/4.56
Re: How tough can a 700r4 be built

Originally Posted by BlueChevyZ
I've gone thru 2 700s, 1 was a basic perf rebuild, and 2nd was a full stage 2 with all the goodies, neither lasted behind a 383 stroker, have switched to a T56
then ya did not get what ya paid for!... lingenfelter did my 700R4. and it took a beatn for 8 years till it broke a sprag.. and that was only after. the ring and pinon let got at the top end..but it also cracked the convert nose. replaced the 2 parts and was back on line... 60ft times 1.54 1/4 mile ets in the 10.50s this was in the 90s

buy the good parts they have out today!
my 6 pinon planet was $1100...that's 1 part guys...
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2013 | 05:48 AM
  #11  
MetalObsession's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Car: 1984 z28 2006DodgeDieselMegacab4X4
Engine: Just the 305HO for now
Transmission: 770-r4
Re: How tough can a 700r4 be built

The 770 was a typo. meant 700r4.
Right on thats good news. It would be cool to have the power and still retain overdrive. Really just want to be able to simplify things under the hood after i put in a 350 or 383
I test drove an 86 a few years ago that didnt look like much on the outside but when i popped the hood i was really impressed. Clean, well dressed 350 with headers and hardly nothin as far as emissions and stuff. Just all the good stuff.
The old man has a 72 2wd c10 with a stroker, it runs really good. Wouldnt mind that motor in my camaro
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2013 | 06:50 PM
  #12  
MetalObsession's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Car: 1984 z28 2006DodgeDieselMegacab4X4
Engine: Just the 305HO for now
Transmission: 770-r4
Re: How tough can a 700r4 be built

WOW thats a hell of a link. Thanks vetteoz. I could read up for days.

I put my plow truck in the shop this morning for some vital attention. Those guys build diesel trannys for leadfoot guys with 1000hp.
Good to know theres a way to do it.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Hotrodboba400
Firebirds for Sale
3
Dec 10, 2019 07:07 PM
RyanJB
Members Firebirds
39
Nov 20, 2018 03:30 PM
Zeek1041
Theoretical and Street Racing
12
Sep 30, 2015 11:00 AM
89newfun
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Wanted
2
Sep 16, 2015 09:28 AM
Hotrodboba400
Firebirds for Sale
0
Sep 2, 2015 07:28 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:55 PM.