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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 05:43 PM
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1991 305 700r4 flex plate

Getting conflicting search results for this. What flexplate do I need for 1991 305/700r4/starter - all stock

1 or 2 piece rear seal - I know this is 1 piece

153/168 tooth count - ?

Internal/External engine Balance - I thought all 86+ small blocks were internally balanced (except the 400) so not sure why summit sells an externally balanced flexplate for a 305/350??

Weighted/non-weighted - ? Does it need the little bat-wing weight on it?

Converter bolt pattern? 10.75 or 11.5?

Researching my dissertation was easier...thanks for the help.
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 06:04 PM
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Re: 1991 305 700r4 flex plate

All V8 third gens were 153 tooth.

The weight is part of the internal balance of all 86-up SBC. There is no 86-up 400.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 11:01 AM
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Re: 1991 305 700r4 flex plate

Thanks for the clarification.

So I need:
1 piece rear main seal
153 Tooth
Internal Engine balance

Any idea on the bolt pattern/size?
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 01:38 PM
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Re: 1991 305 700r4 flex plate

Found out it's 10.75 inch bolt pattern.

Still not sure if that weight on the flexplate needs to be there. I found some flexplates online that meet all the criteria, but don't have the weight bolted on it.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 04:39 PM
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Re: 1991 305 700r4 flex plate

Originally Posted by MrPink
found some flexplates online that meet all the criteria, but don't have the weight bolted on it.
For 1 pce RMS engines that have been custom balanced

The info on the Summit site is confusing as they erroneously call any flexplate with a weight on it " external " balance

Sofa's comment below tells it as it is

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/post...243-post6.html
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 06:43 PM
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Re: 1991 305 700r4 flex plate

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1991 305/700r4/starter - all stock
Originally Posted by MrPink
Still not sure if that weight on the flexplate needs to be there. I found some flexplates online that meet all the criteria, but don't have the weight bolted on it.
Then, "no you didn't."

There may be aftermarket neutral balance flexplates for 86-up crank bolt pattern, but those aren't working with a stock 86-up SBC.

The "imbalance" weight stays the same, whether 86 Z28 engine or 2002 5.7L GMC van. The balance work is done internally to the crank.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 11:05 AM
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Re: 1991 305 700r4 flex plate

Thanks Vetteoz - Sofa's comment you posted clears up all the confusion. Like you said, the descriptions on Jegs/Summit are very confusing - calling these things externally balanced - which refers to the external weight attached, not the engine balance.

Anyway, I ended up getting this: http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performan...01073/10002/-1

Hope this thread helps anyone else looking for a flywheel for 86+ 305 in the future.
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