Mating T56 to engine - Missing Something
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: Huntsville, AL
Car: 1992 Chevy Camaro RS
Engine: LO3 - 305 TBI (Stock)
Transmission: 5-speed - T5
Axle/Gears: Stock
Mating T56 to engine - Missing Something
I may be asking a dumb question because I am probably overlooking something on this but if asking a dumb question is what it takes, I've got no problem doing it. I'm getting ready to swap in a 4.8 & T56 into my 92 camaro. I just finished swapping everything over on the motor and installed the new clutch kit and slave cylinder. My problem is that I cannot get the trans to mate to the engine. The splines are started about 1" but it seems I may be contacting the pressure plate with the slave cylinder. IIRC my slave cylinder to bell housing-trans surface is 3" while my pressure plate to the same surface is 2.25" Meaning I have about 3/4" interference. I don't want to force it on using bolts to pull the two together - I'm not completely opposed, I just want to do it right. This is my first time dealing with this type of slave cylinder. Do I have to bleed the slave cylinder prior to bolting the trans to the engine? My only other conclusion is that I'm not lining up with my pilot bearing - I know it fits because I tested it prior to installing it.
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 5,906
Likes: 240
From: Chicagoland Suburbs
Car: 1989 Trans Am GTA
Engine: LT1, AFR 195cc, 231/239 LE cam.
Transmission: M28 T56
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10bolt waiting to explode.
Re: Mating T56 to engine - Missing Something
I may be asking a dumb question because I am probably overlooking something on this but if asking a dumb question is what it takes, I've got no problem doing it. I'm getting ready to swap in a 4.8 & T56 into my 92 camaro. I just finished swapping everything over on the motor and installed the new clutch kit and slave cylinder. My problem is that I cannot get the trans to mate to the engine. The splines are started about 1" but it seems I may be contacting the pressure plate with the slave cylinder. IIRC my slave cylinder to bell housing-trans surface is 3" while my pressure plate to the same surface is 2.25" Meaning I have about 3/4" interference. I don't want to force it on using bolts to pull the two together - I'm not completely opposed, I just want to do it right. This is my first time dealing with this type of slave cylinder. Do I have to bleed the slave cylinder prior to bolting the trans to the engine? My only other conclusion is that I'm not lining up with my pilot bearing - I know it fits because I tested it prior to installing it.
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: Huntsville, AL
Car: 1992 Chevy Camaro RS
Engine: LO3 - 305 TBI (Stock)
Transmission: 5-speed - T5
Axle/Gears: Stock
Re: Mating T56 to engine - Missing Something
Yes, I used the clutch alignment tool. I've read some ppl have a little slop and have to hold it in the center while installing the pressure plate. I may have to redo that step but if I'm missing a step with the slave I may end up in the same situation.
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: Huntsville, AL
Car: 1992 Chevy Camaro RS
Engine: LO3 - 305 TBI (Stock)
Transmission: 5-speed - T5
Axle/Gears: Stock
Re: Mating T56 to engine - Missing Something
Yes, I used the clutch alignment tool. I've read some ppl have a little slop and have to hold it in the center while installing the pressure plate. I may have to redo that step but if I'm missing a step with the slave I may end up in the same situation.
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 539
Likes: 3
From: Huntsville, AL
Car: 87 GTA, 88 GTA, 92 TA, 72 RS SS
Engine: 350, 350, 305, 396
Transmission: T56, 700r4, 700r4, T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42, 3.23, 3.23, 3.73
Re: Mating T56 to engine - Missing Something
Try having someone push in the clutch while working it in from the bottom to get it to seat all the way.. That's always worked for me.
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: Huntsville, AL
Car: 1992 Chevy Camaro RS
Engine: LO3 - 305 TBI (Stock)
Transmission: 5-speed - T5
Axle/Gears: Stock
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 12,221
Likes: 1,141
From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: Mating T56 to engine - Missing Something
You may want to look into the different crank flange lengths on the 4.8 vs 5.3/5.7. IIRC my friend had this issue when he did a 6speed swap in his 4.8 truck. He had to do something to make it work right but I cant remember exactly what.
Trending Topics
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 5,261
Likes: 461
From: RI
Car: 1984 Camaro Berlinetta
Engine: LT1
Transmission: T56 6-speed
Axle/Gears: 4.11 LS1 Rear End
Re: Mating T56 to engine - Missing Something
Try having someone push in the clutch while working it in from the bottom to get it to seat all the way.. That's always worked for me.
+1
Always works for me too,.... hook up the hydraulics and try it !
Supreme Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 2,776
Likes: 8
From: Santa Monica, CA
Car: '91 Camaro RS
Engine: F1R Procharged 383
Transmission: Tremec 600
Axle/Gears: moser 12 bolt, 4.11's 33 spline axl
Re: Mating T56 to engine - Missing Something
If the alignment tool doesn't fit snug into the pilot bearing/bushing (and it never does) wrap a few turns of masking tape around the snout until it fits very snug.
That's generally gotten me close enough that I could get the trans to seat without having anyone push the clutch in, so I could do it by myself, and before the clutch is hooked up.
That's generally gotten me close enough that I could get the trans to seat without having anyone push the clutch in, so I could do it by myself, and before the clutch is hooked up.
Supreme Member




Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 3,178
Likes: 48
From: Tracy, CA
Car: '87 IROC
Engine: LB9
Transmission: TH700R4
Re: Mating T56 to engine - Missing Something
I've only used one of those universal alignment tools once with success.
Instead of splines, it used a cone to center the friction disc. The pilot bushing end isn't nearly long enough to hold the tool straight.
My father used to have one drawer in one of his tool chests full of junk input shafts. These seem to work the best but for a one-off install? Maybe not.
He even had one that worked for a 1931 Ford AA truck.
Instead of splines, it used a cone to center the friction disc. The pilot bushing end isn't nearly long enough to hold the tool straight.My father used to have one drawer in one of his tool chests full of junk input shafts. These seem to work the best but for a one-off install? Maybe not.
He even had one that worked for a 1931 Ford AA truck.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Loudnproud86
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
12
May 26, 2016 05:20 PM





