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Old 01-18-2019, 06:59 PM
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hawks 8.8 or Strange S60?

Tax return time is coming up and im looking to do my research for a diff before I truly snapp the 94 lt1 rear end. I want to first state that by no means can I weld. I dont want to piece together parts and create a diff. im looking for ease of installing and swap a complete diff. When i swapped in the newer diff i also opted to have a 3' driveshaft made and upgraded to 1350 u joint which I believe to be 41.5 inches long to handle my 700hp. Which I have already surpassed recently.

I want to safely try to start putting more of that power down launching the car and not sprinkle diff dust when i head to the track this season looking to get into the 10s repeatedly. I saw hawks 8.8 diff and was going through their options and seems like they dont really give you a guide as the hp capabilities of the posi units available. I assume for anything more than 500hp id need to go with the wavetrac 33 spline and all the options im looking at $3800. Plus shipping etc

The S60 also comes up for easy to bolt-in setup at a lower price point but unknown what hp I can put through it but i see alot of guys running this on here with good success..but not on higher hp levels from what i see.

Now i do drive my car both street/strip and have my spare gta rims with nitto 55s on them and want to air them down and launch for once at the track and not be scared to go after a slip so I want to see what do you guys suggest i go with for my given needs. And what experience do you have with either brand.Supposedly wavetracs are lifetime warranty on the posi and strange is not.

Thoughts?
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Old 01-18-2019, 07:21 PM
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Re: hawks 8.8 or Strange S60?

S60 all the way, dont bother with the 8.8
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Old 01-18-2019, 07:28 PM
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Re: hawks 8.8 or Strange S60?

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S60 all the way, dont bother with the 8.8
Even given the power im going to throw at it with a 6spd clutch dump and sticky tire lol?
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Even given the power im going to throw at it with a 6spd clutch dump and sticky tire lol?
S60
Ford 9"
12 bolt

In that order
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^^What he said. S60 all day.
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Re: hawks 8.8 or Strange S60?

I would look at either a moser 12 bolt or a 9” from any of the manufacturers. I have had 2 S60’s one new one and one used one, had nothing but problems with both, and strange flat out does not stand behind any of their products. Personally I have been burned by them twice, and would never recommend an S60.
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Re: hawks 8.8 or Strange S60?

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I would look at either a moser 12 bolt or a 9” from any of the manufacturers. I have had 2 S60’s one new one and one used one, had nothing but problems with both, and strange flat out does not stand behind any of their products. Personally I have been burned by them twice, and would never recommend an S60.
Thats rare to hear of how bad the diff is.Customer service is 1 thing..product quality is another. Im strong believer in if you stand by me the customer when your product has an issue and you help me in someway then Im cool. If you dont have good customer service...why do you deserve my hard earned money.Word of mouth and internet reviews are your 1st and these days..only chance to keep clients.

care to explain what issues you had with the diff itself just so i know what to look for?
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Re: hawks 8.8 or Strange S60?

9 inch
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Re: hawks 8.8 or Strange S60?

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I would look at either a moser 12 bolt or a 9” from any of the manufacturers. I have had 2 S60’s one new one and one used one, had nothing but problems with both, and strange flat out does not stand behind any of their products. Personally I have been burned by them twice, and would never recommend an S60.
Please elaborate on when these problems happened and what they were. I just bought and installed an S60. I had ordered 4 bottles of gear oil and they only shipped 2. I emailed them about it and had 2 more bottles a day later. I was impressed by that customer service.
I won't drive the car until Spring, so I'm wondering if I should look for some problem now and not wait for spring.
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Re: hawks 8.8 or Strange S60?

If you want alot of feedback on the S60 then look up reviews on LS1tech, I was going to go strange 12 bolt but couldn't find a deal good enough on black friday, I ended up going Moser 9" with all the options, between the new center and rear end package I was all in at about $3100

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Re: hawks 8.8 or Strange S60?

I think the best fact about the S60 is it retains the factory type tq arm setup. The moser 9 or 12 bolt I have no exp with. I have a midwest fab 9. And that makes you weld in a tq arm mount setup. Its was quite expensive but I got all the options. Well made but it will drain your wallet, but looks great under the car.
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Re: hawks 8.8 or Strange S60?

I am in the same boat as you are OP. I will be ordering my rear this week actually.
--- see my (long) thread here. https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tran...ice-input.html
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Re: hawks 8.8 or Strange S60?

So the first one I had was noisy no matter what gears we put in it, we tried 4 different sets with a Dana certified installer, not a garage shop. The 2nd one, I specifically asked if there was a lighter set of gears or something we could put in it when they were building it to keep it quiet, as it was only going to be a 350rwhp ET bracket car. They upsold me on a special gear that was a street car specific gear and it was about $200 more than the standard Dana spicer gear set. Sure enough it howled loud enough on decell they could hear it over the phone, and they agreed it was a bad setup. They said they would pay for a new set to be installed, so I took it to a Dana spicer factory installer, he pulled the cover while I watched, told me the gear pattern looked great, but checked the numbers and it was the standard gear, not the “quiet car gear” when I called strange on that they swore up and down he didn’t know what he was talking about. So we moved forward, installed another gear set, and they were just as loud. Then the installer tried 2 more sets of his own Dana gears to see if he could make it right, and never could get them quiet, even tho the pattern was perfect every time. At this point strange told me to pound sand, didn’t pay me for any of it, and told me it wasn’t their problem anymore. I said whatever, it’s my fault for buying a POS60 in the first place, so I decided to run it for a season and sell it after. 10-12 races in.. i started showing wear on the drivers side inside of the tire. Put the car on the alignment rack, and sure as ****, strange welded the bearing housing on the end of the tube crooked and the chamber was off, and had over a full degree of toe. I emailed strange on it and nothing. In my eyes, strange is a bunch of dirtbags who don’t stand behind anything.
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Thanks for the details. I have to get the car aligned this year too, so I will be sure to look at the measurements on the rear.
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Re: hawks 8.8 or Strange S60?

Originally Posted by 86White_T/A305 View Post
Tax return time is coming up and im looking to do my research for a diff before I truly snapp the 94 lt1 rear end. I want to first state that by no means can I weld. I dont want to piece together parts and create a diff. im looking for ease of installing and swap a complete diff. When i swapped in the newer diff i also opted to have a 3' driveshaft made and upgraded to 1350 u joint which I believe to be 41.5 inches long to handle my 700hp. Which I have already surpassed recently.

I want to safely try to start putting more of that power down launching the car and not sprinkle diff dust when i head to the track this season looking to get into the 10s repeatedly. I saw hawks 8.8 diff and was going through their options and seems like they dont really give you a guide as the hp capabilities of the posi units available. I assume for anything more than 500hp id need to go with the wavetrac 33 spline and all the options im looking at $3800. Plus shipping etc
I'll be buying a used 8.8 in the coming weeks and converting it myself so I'm pretty well read on the 8.8s. If you can't weld then that pretty much negates going with a Ford 8.8. The big advantage to the 8.8 is cost if you can do it yourself because even in stock form the 8.8 is pretty strong. You can search for posts by Pocket and some of the other guys who have ran stock 8.8 conversions with a supercharged LS and had no problems at 500 wheel horsepower. If you have to buy a ready to run rear end just go with a name brand that isn't 8.8 based.
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