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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 07:50 AM
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Where to source a LT1 style T56

Just like the title says. Does anyone know a company or place where you can get a 93-97 T56? I know Hawls has a kit, but was hoping to avoid paying $3k for a used trans with next to no warranty. All the other places that I've seen them listed now either doesn't list them at all or says out of stock.

Might just have to bite the bullet on the Hawks kit, bit I feel like there has to be another option.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 08:50 AM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

Junkyard. Or, buy a wrecked or otherwise useless car.

if somebody doesn't have one, then … they don't have one. It's not like you can place your order for somebody to go out and wreck a car. Just gotta wait til one pops up.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 12:23 PM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

Buy a rebuilt and eat the core charge ?
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 12:57 PM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

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Buy a rebuilt and eat the core charge ?
I have looked into this. Depending in where you look the core charge is staggering. One company through summit has a $2500 core charge!

Advance sells one for 2195 with a 450 core charge.. Thats better but still. Tremec sell brand new T56 Magnums for just over 3k. They just only sell the LS version.

I have been looking for quite awhile. I almost bought one for sale on here. Unfortunately I had a bunch of other bills crop up at the time.

There are next to no yards around here. The one that is here isn't very friendly it seems..

The more I look the better the Hawks deal seems.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 01:34 PM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

Pretty sure gym performance pets offers a magnum that bolts to a SBC. They have connect and cruise packages that have the magnum.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 01:36 PM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

Where you located? I have one but not wanting to part with at this time. But was also browsing Craigslist in my area and ran across a 93 Z28 for sale with a six speed. It was fairly rough car from what I remember but was asking in the $1500 range. Almost thought of buying the car myself just to get the transmission but with 3 birds already I’ve come to like having my wife around 😂
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 01:42 PM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

Originally Posted by JTome91z
Pretty sure gym performance pets offers a magnum that bolts to a SBC. They have connect and cruise packages that have the magnum.
I think that's an LS transmission and they use a "kit" to adapt it to a gen 1 SBC. Some folks on here have done the LS to SBC adaptation route and while it does work, it's not as simple as just bolting up an LT1 T56. We had a thread about it recently.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tran...p-options.html

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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 01:47 PM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

Yeah; they used to be fairly plentiful, but now those cars, like our own already have, are becoming antiques. I doubt 15% of all that were made are still on the road. The only advice I can give you is to have a large pile of yuppie food stamps ready to hand at all times, and if/when one appears, pounce. As to condition, … who can predict what an antique used manual transmission might have been through over its lifetime.

I would avoid the 93, because of its gear ratios. 94-97 are what you want.

It's not 2000 anymore.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 06:39 PM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

A good manual trans is going to cost $$$$ no matter how you cut it. If (when) my T56 blows up then I doubt I'll be replacing it with another manual trans.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 07:04 PM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

I'm in Tomah, WI. I would love to find a car and take it all out. The very few 93-97 V8 cars I see all have autos. The one or two that are sticks are 10k+ and in great shape. The only LT1 trans I found for sale by itself was about 300 miles away and they wanted 3k for it.

I swear just a few months ago there were a few companies that sold them and had them in stock, rebuilt and in various "stages". Now I can't seem to locate a single place except for Hawks.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 09:32 PM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

Ya just gotta be patient. They come, and they go. It's not like there's a factory churning out wrecked ANTIQUE cars. Gotta be READY - like, a stack of yuppie food stamps IN YOUR HAND, not, "I can get it in acoupla days" or "a week or 2" or "when my stimulus check finally shows up" - IN YOUR HAND - so when one DOES show up, you can POUNCE.

Be ready to drive a few hundred miles, pay shipping, pay warehousing, WHATEVER, ON THE SPOT, nobody is just going to drop one on you from heaven. Used ANTIQUE car parts don't work that way.

Coming on here and P&Ming about it won't materialize one.

Patience Grasshopper. Preparation Grasshopper.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 09:39 PM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

Originally Posted by QwkTrip
A good manual trans is going to cost $$$$ no matter how you cut it. If (when) my T56 blows up then I doubt I'll be replacing it with another manual trans.
Getting tired of rowing gears?

Rebuilding your existing T56 should definitely be cheaper than buying a brand new one.

Especially since most of the times when a manual trans goes, its mostly just 1 gear that gets killed. They are fairly 'modular' that way.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 10:48 PM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

Originally Posted by sofakingdom
Ya just gotta be patient. They come, and they go. It's not like there's a factory churning out wrecked ANTIQUE cars. Gotta be READY - like, a stack of yuppie food stamps IN YOUR HAND, not, "I can get it in acoupla days" or "a week or 2" or "when my stimulus check finally shows up" - IN YOUR HAND - so when one DOES show up, you can POUNCE.

Be ready to drive a few hundred miles, pay shipping, pay warehousing, WHATEVER, ON THE SPOT, nobody is just going to drop one on you from heaven. Used ANTIQUE car parts don't work that way.

Coming on here and P&Ming about it won't materialize one.

Patience Grasshopper. Preparation Grasshopper.
That's what worked for me. I was planning on going with a ls1 and T56 for my 92 TA. I was really getting disgusted with the local prices. Local meaning within a 3 hour drive. Finally saw a local 94 TA with Lt1 and T56 for 1750. Had to get it towed home due to a busted tranny mount. Which also got the price down to 1500. Interior is shot, windows don't work but who cares Got everything pulled out and am going through the motor right now but it looks good. Plus got all the pedals and hydraulics needed for the trans swap. . I bought it the day it hit Craigslist. I'm sure if I waited even a few days it would have been gone.
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Old Apr 25, 2020 | 01:37 PM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

For what it's worth, Hawks is willing to remove items from the kit so you can save some money that way. Just ordered mine earlier this month. Didn't want a used clutch or used flywheel, and already have an aftermarket crossmember, so that brought the price down. Also, although the website description for the kit states they offer a 93-97 T56 the guy I spoke to on the phone said they only sell the 94-97 T56.

It's worth noting their fulfillment times are pretty long right now though. Might not actually ship for a month after ordering.
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Old Apr 25, 2020 | 02:14 PM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

Originally Posted by Thirdgen89GTA
Getting tired of rowing gears?
Getting tired of being slow.

And high power cars are a lot of work - especially manual trans cars.
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Old Apr 25, 2020 | 02:52 PM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

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For what it's worth, Hawks is willing to remove items from the kit so you can save some money that way. Just ordered mine earlier this month. Didn't want a used clutch or used flywheel, and already have an aftermarket crossmember, so that brought the price down. Also, although the website description for the kit states they offer a 93-97 T56 the guy I spoke to on the phone said they only sell the 94-97 T56.

It's worth noting their fulfillment times are pretty long right now though. Might not actually ship for a month after ordering.
Thanks for the info. That's good to know. I do have a handful of items for the tran swap already.
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Old Apr 25, 2020 | 03:37 PM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

The reasons to go with the 4th gen LT1 trans. were they were available, and required the least work to fit a 3rd gen.

You mention having parts already. If this is your keep-forever car, go T56 Magnum (it's a TR6060 inside,) and enjoy the several upgrades it has. 31 spline mainshaft and yoke, synchronizer updates, wider gears, ratio options. There are lots of ways to use the LS engine length input with the gen I and II engines.

The reason to stick with the 93-97 stuff, including clutch aren't as valid as they once were.
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Old Apr 25, 2020 | 03:57 PM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

Originally Posted by Boom
I'm in Tomah, WI. I would love to find a car and take it all out. The very few 93-97 V8 cars I see all have autos. The one or two that are sticks are 10k+ and in great shape. The only LT1 trans I found for sale by itself was about 300 miles away and they wanted 3k for it.

I swear just a few months ago there were a few companies that sold them and had them in stock, rebuilt and in various "stages". Now I can't seem to locate a single place except for Hawks.
I'm in Milwaukee, on Tuesday me and my good pal drove through Tomah on our way to Minneapolis. I picked up the broken T56 that you may have seen on craigslist. Viper main shaft, Pro 5.0 shifter, big yolk, cryo treated, face plated and broken $800. It suits my needs. I found it on Eau Claire craigslist. I notice when looking in that area there is a dude in Minnesota that sells T56 parts. He has LT1 front plates and such. The center case on a T56 is the same no matter what car it came out of, vette to mudstain and everything in between. Switching the front plate and input shaft on a LS T56 to LT plate and shaft will get you what you need. I personally have the ability to go into a T56 and come back out. Also, as others have mentioned, I had a fist full of fun tickets ready to go and have been searching for a while. I am familiar with the ad for $3000 and think that dude is on drugs. It is amazing what people are asking for these in general, a couple hundred bucks less than a new Magnum for a trans with 150,000 on it. Pick up a repair manual and learn how to make it work and or save money. You don't know if the next deal or just opportunity to buy that you run into will require a repair or not. Just remembered, American Powertrain, check them out.
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Old Apr 25, 2020 | 09:32 PM
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Re: Where to source a LT1 style T56

I feel your pain. Like everyone else is saying, just be very persistent checking out Craigslist and Facebook marketplace. 93-97 T56s are becoming harder and harder to find. I'm from Wisconsin too and last year I lucked out finding one in Appleton. I paid $1000 for it including an aftermarket MGW shifter. It had 150k miles, so I had Jason at Texas Drivetrain Performance go through it. The rebuild cost me about $2000 including shipping, but a few gears had to be replaced. I haven't gotten a chance to try it out because I'm waiting to buy an aluminum driveshaft that doesn't vibrate. It doesn't help we keep getting snow :/
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