Making old 12 bolt fit a thirdgen?
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From: Saugerties, NY, USA
Car: '89 Formula
Engine: 355 TPI
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9 bolt.
Making old 12 bolt fit a thirdgen?
My body guy at the shop the Charger's at would let me have this old 12 bolt housing and stuff he's got laying around for free but right now I don't have a clue where to start to make it fit the Chicken...
What I know... old 12 bolt out of a ???? Has the fittings on the housing to bolt up to an old 4 link full frame car (Chevelle maybe?). 55.5 inches from end of axle tube to other end. No axles, no gears.
Also has an unknown clutch type posi unit sitting with it (has 6 7 2 stamped into it) that will take 31 spline axles and a couple of brake drums.
Anybody ever try to make something like this fit??? Where would you come up with a torque arm mount for this kinda thing?
I got a '90 10 bolt sitting in the garage that I guess I could cut the spring perches and stuff off to weld onto this thing but other than that I'm not even sure at this time if the width is correct.
What I know... old 12 bolt out of a ???? Has the fittings on the housing to bolt up to an old 4 link full frame car (Chevelle maybe?). 55.5 inches from end of axle tube to other end. No axles, no gears.
Also has an unknown clutch type posi unit sitting with it (has 6 7 2 stamped into it) that will take 31 spline axles and a couple of brake drums.
Anybody ever try to make something like this fit??? Where would you come up with a torque arm mount for this kinda thing?
I got a '90 10 bolt sitting in the garage that I guess I could cut the spring perches and stuff off to weld onto this thing but other than that I'm not even sure at this time if the width is correct.
its possible, but i belive you need to narrow the axle tubes, weld in all new spring and shock mounts and the torque arm, agian it can be done, but a major pain in the ***, only thing you can do is try to build up the 7.5 or get a moser 12 bolt and be done with it
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From: Saugerties, NY, USA
Car: '89 Formula
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Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9 bolt.
It was just a thought at trying to solution my worn out posi in the GTA and possibly upgrade the Chicken at the same time. Ordered a new 9 bolt carrier from Miles. I'll worry about 12 bolt if I blow up the Chicken's rear again this year.
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Car: 1991 S10 pickup 2700lbs
Engine: 4.3L Z TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08 7.625"
is the cover of that 12 bolt pretty much round or is is pretyt irregular shaped ? i wanna know if its a truck or car 12 bolt, that date code of G72 makes it a June 7th 1962 or 1972, and im pretty sure was no car 12 bolt in 62, so must be a 72, but thats the last year of the car 12 bolt..
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Car: '89 Formula
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Axle/Gears: 3.70 9 bolt.
Originally posted by Fast68
is the cover of that 12 bolt pretty much round or is is pretyt irregular shaped ? i wanna know if its a truck or car 12 bolt, that date code of G72 makes it a June 7th 1962 or 1972, and im pretty sure was no car 12 bolt in 62, so must be a 72, but thats the last year of the car 12 bolt..
is the cover of that 12 bolt pretty much round or is is pretyt irregular shaped ? i wanna know if its a truck or car 12 bolt, that date code of G72 makes it a June 7th 1962 or 1972, and im pretty sure was no car 12 bolt in 62, so must be a 72, but thats the last year of the car 12 bolt..
I'll have to go back and look again. I'm not a 12 bolt guru... that's why I was asking. He didn't even know where it came from.
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i know hehe, i was just posting most obvious difference between the two, but im curious myself too, so lol
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Unless you plan on doing a lot of rear suspension fabrications it's not worth the money to try and adapt an old 12 bolt. There's no way to attach the torque arm onto the diff. A ford 9" housing is steel and mounts can be easily welded onto the housing. The center of the 12 bolt housing is cast iron making it very difficult to attach a torque arm mount.
You could install it but change the rear suspension to ladder bars or a 4-link but by the time you're done it would be cheaper to buy an aftermarket 12 bolt.
You could install it but change the rear suspension to ladder bars or a 4-link but by the time you're done it would be cheaper to buy an aftermarket 12 bolt.
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Re: Making old 12 bolt fit a thirdgen?
Originally posted by Brian Shaughnessy
My body guy at the shop the Charger's at would let me have this old 12 bolt housing and stuff he's got laying around for free but right now I don't have a clue where to start to make it fit the Chicken...
What I know... old 12 bolt out of a ???? Has the fittings on the housing to bolt up to an old 4 link full frame car (Chevelle maybe?). 55.5 inches from end of axle tube to other end. No axles, no gears.
Also has an unknown clutch type posi unit sitting with it (has 6 7 2 stamped into it) that will take 31 spline axles and a couple of brake drums.
Anybody ever try to make something like this fit??? Where would you come up with a torque arm mount for this kinda thing?
I got a '90 10 bolt sitting in the garage that I guess I could cut the spring perches and stuff off to weld onto this thing but other than that I'm not even sure at this time if the width is correct.
My body guy at the shop the Charger's at would let me have this old 12 bolt housing and stuff he's got laying around for free but right now I don't have a clue where to start to make it fit the Chicken...
What I know... old 12 bolt out of a ???? Has the fittings on the housing to bolt up to an old 4 link full frame car (Chevelle maybe?). 55.5 inches from end of axle tube to other end. No axles, no gears.
Also has an unknown clutch type posi unit sitting with it (has 6 7 2 stamped into it) that will take 31 spline axles and a couple of brake drums.
Anybody ever try to make something like this fit??? Where would you come up with a torque arm mount for this kinda thing?
I got a '90 10 bolt sitting in the garage that I guess I could cut the spring perches and stuff off to weld onto this thing but other than that I'm not even sure at this time if the width is correct.
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IT WILL FIT
You can fit a 12 bolt in a thirdgen. Heres a tech article that might help.
http://www.y-t-g.com/12bolt.html
http://www.y-t-g.com/12bolt.html
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