didn't notice to much of a difference after putting it in, it would just happen to be put in on a day when it's raining. lol. but no big deal there, neway, it's a 6AL that my friend was running on his modded lincoln, but the big Mark V finally has started to get massive valve blowby so it was advised to not drive the car until a rebuild, so my buddy gave me the MSD that was attached to the car. The only thing i've noticed with it is the niceness of having a rev limiter, especially when my tranny wanted to go past 6000 earlier today, but is 6k the best place to place the limiter? I know that it's the red line on this motor, but...........i've also heard that a 2.8L is good for more than that ammount of RPM, just wondering, since i'm sure the tranny would shift prior to 7k anyway, although it occasionally wants to run until about 6200. bad part is there's no power there, so we'll see, take her to the track again on weds, and see what i can turn.

 

hey, the "best" mods you'll wont' foresay, see a huge difference, but in the long run once you have put everything o, they will all work in conjuction with each other, and that my friends is priceless.

 

The 2.8 has a weak crank and any expert will advise you not to repeatedly take that engine over 4000rpm. Only occationally. GM fixed the crank area problem with the 3.4, its a much stronger engine. You may have an aftermarket crank in the car that I don't know about, but just a bit of info if you don't.

 

ah, alright thanx on the crank. The motor that's in there now is a new 2.8L from jasper. Works decently well, tad head work ,with a .040 over bore, seems to be working ok, not sure if it's an improved crank or not, but it's not GM original, it'd be GM replacement so hopefully it's fixed to...lol. Hey, just pulled up a code 12 which alwasy pops, and a code 32. This just happened after i got the MSD installed, but everything seems to be running just fine on the motor. Anyone got any ideas as to why i got those now? or is it just conensidence in timing?thanx.

 

just curious, what did you pay for the engine?

Check your timing after the install?

 

entire motor setup costed 2200 installed a pretty penny for a 2.8L but given that it was installed professional, i can't really complain. plus the 3 year warrnaty is definately nice, i haven't checked the timing on the block, which is definately something i should do, couldn't hurt a bit. Just gotta move around the ghetto rigged wires of the MSD now. lol....i'll hop on the timing tomorrow.

 

That's a real fair price man ! . In my oppinion , you dont want to cheap of work b/c you get what you pay for . I had my 2.8 installed by the best shop in Baton Rouge . It's a HUMUNGUS shop 32 stalls ! . You literally have to look for you car a little before you find it sometimes .But anyway , I paid $2500 for mine .And Im sure yours was that same "professional installation" I got ! ...I did have my wires set-up real nice but sence they were custom made by me , when he put them back on they all didn't go back on the same way and now one side sorta looks ghetto rigged , but its cool cus there not touching the headers , MANIFOLDS I mean or anything metal
p.s. You lucky bastard I didnt get the three year warranty !

 

Does this Jasper moter run the same specs as stock or what?

Just trying to get all my options clear before I jump into anything. I was planning on to do either a 3.4L Swap, or go the extra mile, have the car down a LOT longer (more thatn loickly, at least a year, most of it saving cash) and do what I always wanted to, an LT1 swap, what a PITA that would be. Just want to have all my options on the table before I start doing something.

 

for the most part the specs should remain close to stock, mild and i mean very mild work on the heads, compression should be about the same, the cylinders have been bored out .040 over, which gives effective displacement at like 177ci or something, nothing special, but its 2.9Litres hehe. For the most part you won't notice any huge difference over the stock block, and a 3.4L might be a more valuable upgrade.I had tried to get a 3.4L jasper into my bird, but the company didn't want to perform the swap because of emmesions reasons and their liability. Hope this helps. And good luck with whatever you do, met a guy with a LT1 equipped 3rd gen camaro, old school maro convertabile (the ones you sent off to have done prior to chevy doing them themselves) the guy was running a 12.9 on his street tires.

 

hehehehehe, that's what I call a dialy driver, .... hehehehe

but, yea, ive seen that in the classifieds, where people are selling thirdgen's w/ jasper moter's in there, never new what that was all about.

I don't know if you could help me out with this, but here it goes... Lets say i got a car with a Japser 350 ci engine, would I be able to use stuff specified for the L98 on there? It would make sense if it was a replacement GM engine anyways, but you never know the way these companies work...

 

well the jasper 350 would be the same block as the chevy 350 so...you could use all the TPI stuff on it. The place i took my car to here in st.louis. The beauty of the jasper engine isn't so much it being some huge crate motor, but instead it's the warranty that comes on it, 3 years and 75,000 miles (so make sure you break it b4 then) lol. But they should put out just a tad bit over stock, just a tad, and you can order a motor from them as a direct L98, your best bet would be to collect all L98 parts and swap it on yourself after picking it up, or get the parts and find a shop that'll buy and install the engine for 2000-3000 or so, then take it there and let them connect all harnesses, sensors, etc. Get a tranny that'll work, have it built how you want it, and i'll definately vouch for a 700r4 with vette servo, shift kit, and larger boost valve to raise that line pressure boy would you have fun with one of those and TPI 350....then back that with a positrack rear and have fun all day long. In the end, i had my tranny dropped, built, and reinstalled for 800 bux even actually it was 799.73 or something, but close enough to 800and she shifts like a queen, and breaks your back from 1st to second. I'd thiknk Wayne could vouch for that too. hehe. good luck again bud.

 

85f-bird , gatta love those shifts huh ? GOSH I love a good shiftkit !

Good Lord Stuart ! heh , are you copying off of me again ? Now your getting a new engine !

 

Man I wish I had another engine alot of days. I just got back from a car show. Umm muscle cars galore. There was a red mint mint mint IROC... I need that car.

Back on the topic. Copy cats eh getting new engines. .40 over I bet my car is further than that, and cause its a natural process called wear it must mean its better.

No big difference on the 6AL. That sucks. But atleast it was a cheap mod from a friend.

 

yeh wayne your my role model i'm really looking forward to finding "gremlins" in my igniton system , I don't want a NEW coil!

 

It's a joke about the ''copying " part . Everytime my car breaks down , his does to , and its seems like the same thing .He also did something to his car (dont remember what it was ) then I did same thing . heh .Stuart your just nothing but a big ole' copy cat ! ...J/K

 

speaking of engines , there is this man in Baton Rouge that is VERY rich , he has like 100 cars . He owns the building my Dad works in . On the bottem of that floor he is showing off his cars inside the building , its like a car museum . Each month he will have different cars . I saw some pretty interesting stuff I had never seen before . They had about 3 old firetrucks there that had STRAIGHT 8 yes straight 8 engines . It was funny to look at it and think it was a STRAIGHT 8 because it was so long ! I also saw a firetruck with two distributor caps ! and a 54 corvette with a V6 ? ?? YUP ! and it only have 150 hp ...Now theres a vette I bet our little 2.8s can hang with

 

no, you are

just another thing, have you ever noticed that we both have 88's too

 

on the subject of straight eights, my best bud, same guy who gave me the 6AL has a 1950 buick, it's 95% resotred, and covered in the most gorgeous blue mettalic flake paint. Well the car runs a Buick Super Straight 8 cylinder engine, and a 2 speed dynaflow transmission, around 60 ya gotta hear that 2 speed whine. hehe. great little car, and fun to drive around in too, especially since all the stares. But the best part is that although this thing is near perfect, it was scored at a price of 2,500 bux, guy needed to get rid of it cause he ran outta dough for the finishing project, and need some more $$ for some other "more important" stuff. hehe, score for my friend. :d

 

85-fbird , where ya ganna mount your box ?
Im still thinking of getting one of those with Christmas money or something . But I was thinking where in the world would I mount it if I got it ?

heh , Stuart , never noticed we both have 88s ...what color is yours ?

 

Dark Metallic Blue w/ Silver GFX
(propabley Maaco, i dunno. cuase it sucks)
(previously Black)

Is yours a true "California" RS? If so, thats great, since there was very few made, that means even more rare with a six!

my opinion on white - :nono: :nono: :nono:

 

Yeah its a true ''California RS" ...I have the window sticker in good shape , the buildsheet , mantaince records and some other things that came with the car ! It's a Van Nuys car ....Some people have told me "there's nothing special about that car besides the ground effects " I say " your wrong there , the white rims to match the car are special , the spoiler is different , and the rs emblems .

The original owner of the car was a 75 year old man from Texas with a radar detector mounted on the dash who ordered the car from California .The next owner was some HOT girl from Brazil . I have owned the car longer than both of them have and I plan to keep it

I love the white , it does not show scratches , real easy to keep clean and bright .

 

:sillylol: Oh really? I've NEVER heard that one yet. Funny how I've taken (and still do) my 1986 2.8l, with +233,000 miles, over 4000 RPM many many MANY times. Now, if the fact that my motor has been spun over 4 grand, and has lasted for this many miles- does that mean I've typed "expert/proven input", and you're typing an opinion?

What exactly did GM do to strengthen the crank for the 3.4? I'm very curious to know.

There was a "small journal" crank from 82-84, which had a mix of a large journal (#3, I believe), and the rest were small. The main bearings didn't like this too much; so GM redesigned the 2.8 crankshaft in '85. Starting in '85, all crank journals were the same size as the 82-84's 3rd journal; aka, the "large journal" crank. And in '87, with the addition of the new counterweight (for DIS-equipped Gen II 2.8's), the crankshaft became internally balanced.

But I haven't heard anything about a 3.4 crank being stronger. And why have I taken my old motor past 4000 RPM, and it's still alive? I must have a custom forged aftermarket crankshaft, eh?