Everyone here is always in search of power for our little V6 engines. We all get mad when someone swaps to a V8, yet nobody really tries to build there V6.

The very first thing you need for a performance based engine,or any engine is HEADERS to get any engine to breathe better. THE BETTER AN ENGINE CAN BREATHE- THE MORE POWER IT WILL PRODUCE.

We have a guy on this board as you all know a Camar_HunterC. He is busting his *** with time and money developing some headers for our cars ( which nobody else currently sells ) and is really in need of our support otherwise these things are going to go under.

If these headers don't get more response in the way of orders they may go away permanantly and then what are you guys going to do about a performance V6 without headers?

Come on guys, this is the best investment you can make.
So lets support him and get some orders going.

 

I'm on the wating list for the turbo/shorty headers. I know I've got a while to go, and C_H_D will announce when those are ready to be developed/made.

as for for the regular headers....what AFrikinGoodTime said

 

The lifespan may be even shorter then you guys think. So far I have 2 payments, and 2 more showing high interest. I emailed the company that I orginally got the collectors from, and I will call them later to get a time index of 10(5 pairs) of collectors. This will give me the needed 4 plus a set to CARB. Though I must say these things may go under while under testing, and it will be tragically funny if they get approved.
Cause while they will probly get approved they will no longer be in production. Afreakin has sent $$ to send a set to CARB, and if nothing happens between now and then and they pass, he will deffinatley get a set and that will be as they say, IT.
You guys screamed for these, now it seems you could careless. Well I went into this venture knowing the risks, and I accepted this might happen(though I did not expect it). So I could care less if no more then the next 5 of these gets made. I am not gonna keep wasting time and energy on them.
I am not asking you to promise orders(hell I had that and well...) I am saying if you want them, order them. I know there are alot of you in Cali ****' territory that can't order them and I symphathize. But fact remains that When/If these get approved, those that were in Cali and HAD to wait, may be the only ones to get them(for that reason). They could not reasonably order them. So the ****'s in Cali may very well have saved you guys in Cali that DO want them, cause they will go to you guys only if nothing changes really fast.

 

Right now that is looking as likely as I will be buyin a Lambo next week.

 

If you can make a y pipe to go along with the headers that would fit my stock exhaust, as cannot afford an entire exhaust redo, you can put me on the list. seriously. Tell me you can do both the headers and y pipe, and you have my $$$.
Jason
Camaro89dude@aol.com

 

I ordered a pair!!!! :hail: :hail: :lala:

 

Will they bolt up to the polution control equipment?? Bolt up to the stock exaust?? I know I know, take it off, and redo it, but this is a daily driver for my wife, and I dont want to remove all that crap and take away from the reliability.

 

I do not have a 2" die to bend the metal to make the "Y" pipe. I will put it this way, any competent exhaust shop should have no problems with making the "Y" pipe for these headers. The biggest deal is the 2-1 collector and the fitting for the Catalatic converter.
Again if these get rolling, yes I will go all out and spend another $230 on another die so I can make the "Y" pipe and there are many sources for a 2-1 collector.

Ok heres some news about the collectors take it as you will... I called about those collectors, there machine is down and is being repaired. They said maybe another 2-4 days on the machine, and 7-10 days on the collectors, Max 3 weeks total(including machine repair time). That was being quoted for 10-26 collectors. So if you all want them tell me now, place your orders, cause I can have 13 sets ready in 2-3 weeks.

 

Say, perhaps, I dont have enough money to get an exhuast shop to make a y pipe. Does anyone have any idea approximately how hard/ how much it would cost to just run 2 straight dual pipes? I know that people before here have said it wouldn't sound good, but it would most likely only be temporary. I could pick up a couple of used mufflers too go along with it. What size pipe should I use...2.5 in? Also, could I just get some straight exhaust pipe and cut it to my desired length (for after the headers)? I dont have to worry about emissions testing....us good ol' south carolina boys dont mess with that.

If you can offer me a cost efficient plan to do this(saving college money) I'll grab up some headers faster than a Mexican on a bicycle (they're pretty fast around here).

Jason

 

If your really concerned about the "Y" pipe, you can make one yourself. All parts are 2" ID. BTW. You will also need a bolt that will fit the 02 sensor and weld in it.
1.3 foot tubing
2.90* for after the collectors to go right.
2.45* to get the tube(s) leaning to the rear of the car.
1 2-1 collector(if stock converter get dual 2" in with 2" or is it 2 1/4" out?) After market($60 buck high flow cat get a easier to find dual 2" in with 2 1/2" out.

from the driver collector, go 90 right. put on the passanger 90.
That gives you 2 tubes going right. put on the 2 45's put the 2-1 after the 45's, then the 'Verter is a slip fit onto the 2-1 exit.

you can get parts from summit, jegs, or a flurry of on-line places. The most expensive part is the 2-1.

EDIT forgot after the 2-1 get another 45* so the tube will be going rearward.

 

I really want to buy a set for my 3.1L

 

My question still never got answered??

 

I'v been planning on buying some but i have other stuff to take care of first.I just ordered my hood today and i have to buy new rotors and get an alignment i think.I was wondering how hard they are to put on? like do u have to pull the engine out or can they be put on with it in? and i was wondering if i could use them with my stock exaust and then switch it to something like below? or would i be better off to do that all at once? Hang in there Camaro Hunter i'm sure if u sell some and ppl get good results it will all start to snowball......Andy

 

you mean the pollution Control stuff....

YES THEY WILL BE ABLE TO MOUNT THE EGR, HENSE WHY THERE ARE PICS OF THE EGR HOOKED UP TO THE HEADER FLANGE THAT I MADE.

Will they mount to stock exhaust, directly; NO, yet again many a post says that you will need a new "Y" pipe.
Could your stock "Y" pipe BE MADE TO WORK? Possibly.

I have gone over these questions too many times. Try reading the threads, look at the questions others asked, more then likely it HAS ALREADY BEEN GONE OVER.

 

I have an answer for everybody-

Most long header systems you buy cost aprox. $400-$500.(not installed)

CHC's short headers are $150 right. Buy them, take them to a n exhaust shop and have them intall 'em, custom make a y-pipe, and your out the door for about the same price WITH INSTALL.

WHAT A DEAL!

 

any estimates on installation & custom y-pipe costs?

I was planning to do a flowmaster exhaust and hi-flo catco pretty soon anyways, I'd like to have it done all at the same time, so the sooner I get the estimates of the installation costs, the sooner I can order.

 

Zero, Can you read? I just posted this right above you.

 

well considering I'm new, I have not seen any other post about this, and I have not seen any pics in this posting of them, go figure I ask theses questions. If they are a direct bolt up to pollution and current stock exaust, I might be interested.

 

Dale, most of the flow restriction is in the stock y-pipe( I like to refer to as the t-pipe). It is best to have a new one custom made regardless of headers, so if you are going to do this you might as well buy headers first.

These engines struggle enough and without headers you have no platform to build on.

 

Pics are in the "Sticky" thread, tou know the one named V6 HEADERS!?!?! More pics are at
www.geocities.com/generationxracing/MainPage
ok tring again

 

well, that link you posted didnt work. But I did go and find the other posting you were talking about, I just had never went to the second page to see the pics. So I would need to new gaskets, new bolts, and basically new exhaust from their on out Do them come painted, or bare?? Let me see how getting the tranny rebuilt goes and then I will look into them more seriously.

 

:hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:
my work in progress: Thirdgen 60* Modding Guide still working hard on it, but it will get finished soon enough.

 

www.geocities.com/generationxracing/MainPage

 

yes, I am literate

that only answers 1/2 my question...it's appreciated but I still have to figure out the "custom y-pipe" cost

which makes me wonder can YOU read?

lol

 

$100-$150 for a custom y-pipe sounds apropriate.

I'm sorry, I was out of line.

 

haha, no worries

the board wouldn't be fun without attitude!

thanks!

 

Are you guys talkin' from like a muffler shop or somethin'? Just curious. Also, I'm assuming since the headers will be comming back 2" you'd consider the y-pipe 2"? Or would it be better to take it to 2 1/2"? My cat-back is 2 1/2"... Just curious..

 

what you get a is 2-1 collector. Dual 2" in 2 1/2 out. Summit should have it.