I've read almost all the threads about this topic. It seems like nobody makes lowering springs for our cars. ( Even if they say they do, they don't seem to lower V6s )
So, cutting the coils is the only way to lower the front ?

 

I've been thinking about using drop spindles to lower the front. Something I'll be looking into a little bit later. I'll let you all know if it works, it should.

 

I got the Eibach prokit for a V-8, and it jacked up my front end from the stock height. We cut off 1/2 a coil in the front and it seemed to level off. We left the back alone and it seemed to settle to a decent height. Here is my most recnt pic.

Front tire is turned a bit towards the camera, but you can see it is just a smige higher in the rear. We are debating about taking off 1/4 coil in the rear to even it out.

 

Suspension technologies make 1" 4 corner drop springs for the V6.

 

Where do you get those at? My research for these has shown to be futile as well. I thought we were stuck with cutting the springs. I'll try to find where these springs are myself...

 

I've heard about types of 'clamps' that you can use to simply bind your springs closer and lower the vehicle...apparently any shop that knows what they're doing can hook you up, but it sounds like a hokey solution to me...

 

You can get the suspension tech springs at www.shox.com

I plan on using springs from Guldstrand. Talk to their tech guy, he'll know what you're talking about. They're about $260 for front and rear.

 

I'm with you. I would be afraid to do anything like that. A clamp holding the spring. Talk about a bad ride. I can't fathom how it could work safely. For the trouble and ride quality, you would prob be better off cutting the stock ones. Honestly, I would not even recomend that. The stock springs travel so far they beat you up. Cut them and you will surely bottom out. I got got lucky cutting the eibachs. Because they are progressive & a larger thickness spring, the ride did not really suffer.

 

I think the last time I checked I could get them for around 2-220... Plus S&H course...

 

Thanks guys. So it comes down to this: Buy a pair of lowering springs and then cut off 1/2 a coil in front for a good and safe ride.
Yea, I don't think those clamp things would be safe either. Actually all I'm trying to do is just level the car, because I deleted the AC so the front is even higher than the rear. And also is Suspension technologies = Suspension techniques. I saw Suspension techniques lowering springs in JC Whitney catalog for $79. ( for the front ) Anybody try them ?

 

i have been seeing V6 lowering springs for the 4th gen. Will they work?
Tim

 

I tought about that to but i think fourth gens wieght more

 

As far as I know, you cannot use 4th gen's front springs. only the rear springs are interchangeable.

 

i didn't see "suspension Techniques" on that site? Maybe i'm missing it?

Guldstrand, i want to order my bushings there (cuase its the only place that sells 36mm bushings for our cars, the want $20 per set of bushings, no matter the size, and $20 per set of endlinks)

 

No its suspension Technology My supplier carries them cause they make springs for imports, I took a look through the catalog and they also make V6 Specific springs.

4th gen front is a different set up then our, double wishbone suspension(upper AND lower "A" arm) ours is Lower over strut. rears yes are interchangeable.

 

As far as I know teh 4th gens fronts are way different. They have coilovers, I think.

 

To the dude who cut the Eibach lowering springs, shame on you to the tenth degree! Springs are cold wound for a reason, to retain their "springiness". When you cut the spring, you create heat which in turn messes up the springs' rate, inherently changing the cars handling characteristics. You can get a suspension techniques lowering spring for a mere $333 that's including tax. They lowered my car a little over 1" and the car has one wicked looking stance now. And to complement it, I've added suspension techniques sway bar kits front and rear. The car looks great and handles even better.

 

Hey CHC shoot me a PM about the springs for my ride. Need all the info for them. I want to get some.

 

Well, we had no choice the eibachs were part of a deal my boyfriend got for working for a guy over the weekend at a show. We would have never cut them if we could have sold them or if anyone had know about someone else making a V-6 kit. We actually called Eibach to ask them what to do. The tech did not come out a say cut them, Liability, but he hinted it would work. That people have done it with no ill effects. And about cutting them with heat. Its not like we used a torch. We specifically monitored the heat level. We did a little bit at a time to not over heat the metal and cause exactly what you are saying.

So I agree cutting is not the best solution. But so you know the car handles amazing. It takes the curvies awesome and handles bumps even better. No more bone garing, teeth rattling train trakes

 

it sounds hookey but watching monster garage on tv they had a pro low rider dude on and he lowered the car by heating a coil or two on the springs with a torch.

While another guy kinda bounced the car till they thought it looked good??????????????????

 

So now you believe everything you see on tv. I for one have read many articles and have spoken w/ qualified automotive technicians about the fact that springs should never be cut to lower a car. No matter how careful you are. There really isn't way to successfully cut a metal spring w/o causing heat, and heat is the enemy of a spring. I was trying to find the company my friend bought his lowering springs from. It's some company that makes springs for the Indy cars and they have a nice tech article about cutting springs to lower them. When that tv show torched the spring to lower it, they completely destroyed it's ability to hold retension. At that point you might as well throw away that spring. Besides they aren't going to drive that car daily and don't care how it handles. Personally if I even know a car had it's springs lowered by cutting or torching, I'd get the hell off the freaking road as that car is a time bomb.

 

Not to take sides , but I had a tadam axle mini 5 years ago. When I use to live out in Cali. And I cut the springs on it only cause they didnt make them for the dodge D-50 truck. After I cut them I moved out to Florida and drove it across country and had no problems w/ it. Sure it was a lil rough but want lowered car or truck aint. If it doesnt have a air ride suspen. under it. To this day when I go back to see my family in Florida I see my old truck. Just my .2 cents worth

 

A cut off wheel does not create enough heat to make any difference. Cutting the spring does change the rate slightly, but not due to heat.BTW, the Eibach tech department recommended this. Now, if you cut them with a torch, I would agree...that would be bad. We got our Eibach Springs for a "mere $120" (major hookup), new, and invested fifteen minutes cutting them. The car handles much better, and the ride is improved over the stock setup, due to the progressive winding.

 

They probably meant STOCK springs; I would agree with you that even cutting a small amount ruins them. The car will bottom out, and the ride will suffer tremendously. There is no problem cutting aftermarket springs like Eibachs, as long as you don't cut too much...we only cut 1/2 coil. Even if we had known about V6 springs from other sources, we probably still would have gone the same route...the car won't be a V6 forever, and the amount cut should make it "just right"!

 

Hey Joe/Shannon,
Those were the Pro Kits and not the Sportlines? I need to do the same thing to Kristy's (my fiance for one more month yesterday, then, the shackle gets welded on!) RS, I've posted a shot of it earlier in this post, and it has severely cut stock springs in it.
I want to raise it about an inch and a half to two inches but do want it lower than stock. So if I got a set of Pro Kits and shaved half a coil off the front I'd be close?

Anyway the car, I mean Kristy has moved in so I can get some work done on her now! I mean the car! Anyway, hope to hit an Atlanta area show and meet you guys some day. If you ever get down to Savannah give us an email.

Eric

 

If you look at the shot of my car above, you can see how it sits with 1/2 a coil cut off the frt. The rear we left alone. Yes the kit was the eibach prokit springs. Overall, I guess it dropped it and inch to 1&1/2 inches.

Now if you cut them use a cut off wheel. Anything else will heat up the spring too much.

 

Hopefully that will save you removign and reinstalling the springs 10 times like we did...I wanted to be absolutely sure they were properly seated before cutting anything! I havent been to the Savannah area since my national guard drills at Ft Stewart, but if we head that way we'll let you know.

 

Ok guys, she has moved in and so has the Camaro.....

Now, the car has 215/60/16's on factory flat spoke 16" RS/Z-28 rims (16X7 I believe) which are 25.6" tall according to tirerack.com

With the current cut stock coils in there, I measured from the middle of the inside wheel arches. Front is 25 1/2" and the rear is 26 1/4".

Can anyone with a stock, non lowered car running either the factory size 235/55/16 or factory optional 245/50/16's give me their measurements from the same locations?

And Joe or Shannon (raif) what did the car with the Eibach's in it turn out to be?

I realize tire height varies. What I wish to do is put in proper lowering springs which will raise the car (ths sounds like an oxymoron doesn't it?) an inch or so from what it is so it doesn't rip off the airdam and scrape on EVERYTHING but yet have it noticeably lower than stock hieght.

I am sure the "experts" that lowered it prior to Kristy's buying it used the 215/60/16's as they were narrower and wider tires would most certainly rub in front on turns. I wish to put 245/50/16's on it when it's due for tires.

Thanks in advance to all who can help!

Eric.

 

We didn't do any measurements with the uncut Eibachs, but the front end was VERY high...at least 2 1/2 inches above where it was with the original uncut springs. It looked like engine was out, or the car was doing a wheelstand!