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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 07:00 AM
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New sway bars are in!

Spent Friday and Saturday swapping the stock toothpicks for 36/24mm sway bars and wonderbar. Between the thicker bars, new bushings and endlinks, and strait brackets up front, helluva difference. Took the twisty exit ramp to my wonan's house quicker and smoother. Less teeth rattles over the bumps, and less crekin and squeakin inside. Definately worth it.

But wasn't all too easy. Sprayed all bolts with wd-40, waited a few minutes and gathered the tools. Started with front, pass. side end link. Slap a wrench and socket on, pull hard, no go. Grab the breaker bar, pull, pull, SNAP! (Where'd the damn socket go?) OK, thats off (Glad we got new bolts!). Driver's side, same thing. Snap. OK, brackets. WTF? Can't get a socket on the bolt, work it out with a wrench. PITA grabbing it, nevermind turning it. Finally got em all out. Drag the bar out from under the car. Damn those end links look like $hit. Dry, hard, cracked, damn. Front brackets bent to hell.

Now the rear. JAck up the car, put the wrench and socket on the link. Pull, grunt, SNAP! Screw it, take the friggin bracket off. Fortunately the clamps over the axle came off easy. Jack up the other side, just take the bracket off. Take the bar in the basement, Crush the old link in a vice and get the nuts off. Just like the front, end links are ugly.

Grease up the new bushings (damn that stuffs messy) and slap em on the bars. Damn the rear ones are a pita. Oh yeah, my front brackets are bent. Too many yards closed on Saturday, ones open have no 3rd gens. Damn hondas in the way everywhere. Finally find one, run down to get them. At least the motor was out of this car, so getting them was fairly easy.

Now for putting the bars on the car. Try to hold the sway bar, wonderbar, and bolt the bracket up. Yeah, right. Start a bolt on the driver's side to hold up the wonderbar. OK, now we can start the other side to hold both up. Start all the brackets and the links, torque them all down. Repeat for rear. Done. Somebody hand me a friggin beer. Its hot out there.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 10:24 AM
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Sounds like you had one hella saturday. Bet that beer felt good Now I know what I'm gonna have to go thru on mine in about a month or two. Crap
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 07:54 PM
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Re: New sway bars are in!

Originally posted by Mikes86SC
Spent Friday and Saturday swapping the stock toothpicks for 36/24mm sway bars and wonderbar. Between the thicker bars, new bushings and endlinks, and strait brackets up front, helluva difference. Took the twisty exit ramp to my wonan's house quicker and smoother. Less teeth rattles over the bumps, and less crekin and squeakin inside. Definately worth it.

Sounds like you had a rough time with it. But the results seem worth it.

How much did you pay for the sway bars?
Can you give a approx. Total of what the whole project cost you?
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 09:11 PM
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my passenger side bracket is completely cracked all the way through , no telling where else its cracked to . I just saw that when I was sanding and priming my battery tray .Was this a "hard" project , or just time consuming and dealing with the stuck nuts ?
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 11:57 PM
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The guys back in the rust belt, I feel for ya.
You over by CW Post?
I have to do suspension on my Firebird one day, soon.
It's finally pushing 120,000 miles.

My Blazer has 211,500.
I installed the Poly Stuff long LONG LONG time ago.

Easily close to One Hundred Thousand miles ago.
When I swap out rear axle, that's when I do back there poly stuff, finally.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 12:29 AM
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Originally posted by WaynesRS
I just saw that when I was sanding and priming my battery tray
I think you have too much free time
"sanding and priming my battery tray"
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 05:03 AM
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What are the sizes of the v-6 swaybar for a 91 camaro? My suspension has almost 209,000 miles on it. My car needs new springs any one know were i can get lowering springs for a v-6? right now my car sits lower then my firnds 305 camaro with lowering springs mine are shot.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by WaynesRS
my passenger side bracket is completely cracked all the way through , no telling where else its cracked to . I just saw that when I was sanding and priming my battery tray .Was this a "hard" project , or just time consuming and dealing with the stuck nuts ?
It was really just time consuming dealing with stuck nuts and the heat. Kept running in the house to cool off. And of course squeezing under the car is lots of fun. Other than that it wasn't too bad.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 10:43 AM
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Yeah Mike, that heat's brutal lately! I was in a junkyard yesterday trying to get some axleshafts, and could barely stand after 30 minutes... and I like the heat- I usually live for it! Glad to hear you got the toothpicks out (haha, I like that term!) and the real bars underneath. When I did my polyurethane end links, I slapped anti-sieze all over the center bolt so they wouldn't rust up again. So far, they haven't!

I'd rather this weather than rain, though... anyday!
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by Gumby


I think you have too much free time
"sanding and priming my battery tray"
It's called saving money from having to buy a whole new fender with the tray or the hassle of getting one welded in . You know if you dont take care of this areau and its rusted , your battery can fall out if it gets bad enough .

Don't ask me for help when your battery falls out and explodes all over the road.

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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 11:43 PM
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I just recently did that, while swapping on a "new" fender, driver side.
I saw the condition.
Elbow grease & wire brush/drill certainly helps even in rust free CA.
I just layed on the black rustoleum, layer upon layer.
I love doing paint jobs that run into every nook & cranny!
As lousy a job now, I'd definetly hate the welding in part later on.
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