V6 Discussion and questions about the base carbureted or MPFI V6's and the rare SFI Turbo V6.

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Old Aug 22, 2002 | 11:11 PM
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How much HP would our car's have with a DOHC and a Twin Turbo. How could this be done
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Old Aug 23, 2002 | 12:13 AM
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well, the horrible part is that because it's never been done in "our" cars, that we can''t validaly guess on an theoretical number of horsepower off an engine that's never been attempted in our vehicles. There are also many many x-factors that would need to be accounted for in order to make a guess that'll even be worth your time and effort. In other words, you can run a lot of boost, not to much boost, intercooler, no intercooler, performance cams, stock cams, lower compression, regular compression. It'll just depend, but if forced to guess, i'd say roughly 290hp, maybe a tad less, maybe a tad more.
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Old Aug 23, 2002 | 01:56 AM
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What would our 1/4 times be? An estimate ne wayz
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Old Aug 23, 2002 | 08:26 AM
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Pontiac put an aluminum 24valve engine in the 95 (i think) Grand Prix - They detuned it couse the transmission couldn't handle it - It is a SIDEWAYS engine. Figure out how to turn one around North/South and you'd have something - However as for " adding a turbo" you can only put so much pressure on a cylinder - then something is gona blow! Your looking a car that only makes two or three trips down the strip before something blows (like the big boys)
Oh, and those Quad 6's ain't cheep - last time I checked I found a j/y motor for $1700 - add 2 or $3000 for a rebuild/ goodys.
- why not just take a pile of money out in the backyard and set it on fire instead?
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Old Aug 23, 2002 | 04:07 PM
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DOHC-- can we even put one of those in our cars?
I thought there was no way possible. Besides those engines, as stated in other threads were all test pilots. So it would seem to be an unwise investment.
Turbo-- A question that has been asked every 7 days for years. Its never been done by anyone on the board, so till one of the 6ers does it, we'll never know what kind of response or power to expect at the track.

About your sig.
Your running 15.55 in the quarter?
Not trying to flame you.
Just that there was another guy on this board with the same mods and more, and he could only get 16 flat. Wondering what is making your car .45 faster.
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Old Aug 24, 2002 | 12:16 AM
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Hmmm I dunno what V6's u guys have, My other friend A.J. has an 88 2.8 and runs 16 flats with only an exhaust and power chip
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Old Aug 24, 2002 | 01:16 PM
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Sorry man I don't believe you.
Chip and exhaust, whats his chip make 30 hp?
First off your B-day is one day off of 85camarorulz, second same location.
Third you post crap in the theo. race board all the time. As well 85camarorulz post in your posts. And talks just like you.

If you have time slips I will gladly appolgise.
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Old Aug 24, 2002 | 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by Joe_L
Sorry man I don't believe you.
Chip and exhaust, whats his chip make 30 hp?
First off your B-day is one day off of 85camarorulz, second same location.
Third you post crap in the theo. race board all the time. As well 85camarorulz post in your posts. And talks just like you.

If you have time slips I will gladly appolgise.
I agree, sounds like BS to me....
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Old Aug 24, 2002 | 06:30 PM
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Once again, Ppl sit there and assume it's Like I said, I don't know what V6 dog engines you guys have. But this is my car and this is what it runs, If ya don't believe me, So be it. Cause I honestly don't give a ****
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Old Aug 24, 2002 | 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by Camaro_1986_19
Once again, Ppl sit there and assume it's Like I said, I don't know what V6 dog engines you guys have. But this is my car and this is what it runs, If ya don't believe me, So be it. Cause I honestly don't give a ****
Lets see some time slips.

And ther is no need to be a little bitch.
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Old Aug 25, 2002 | 07:53 AM
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Look if you have track #'s you must have some old time slips. If you weren't ing us you would post them. Prove your #'s.
Post them and we will believe you.
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Old Aug 25, 2002 | 02:54 PM
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Number please and was it a full size Camaro or a hot wheels?
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Old Aug 25, 2002 | 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by Ryan_Alswede
Number please and was it a full size Camaro or a hot wheels?
Nah 1/8 mile slips again....
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Old Aug 25, 2002 | 04:44 PM
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Okay I found the proof of the BS from Camaro_1986_19.

89camaroRSV6 Has done all this and has a 15.9

1989 Camaro RS Package
original 2.8 v6 motor ...but
- Overbored to 3.2~ ,High Compression Pistons, Crane 2030 Cam, Complete Intake Manifold, Plenums Ported and Polished, Hypertech Chip and ThermoStat, Vortex System Exhaust (removed CAT), Modified AirBox, K&N filters, Accel 8mm Wires, Platinum +4 Plugs, BF Goodrich Excentia GTs all round, In Car Mp3 Player, 10" subs on custom Box, 8 channel speaker system with Tweeters, B&M TransPak Shift Kit, Corvette Servo, .471 Boost Valve, Transgo Kit (some parts such as sticky valve fix and others from another Transgo Kit)
- 19lb injectors ..finally gone in.
1/4 mile - 15.9@87mph

Camaro_1986_19 does 5 of those mods and get's 15.55 hmmm.

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Old Aug 25, 2002 | 06:12 PM
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I don't see how that qualifies as "original " LOL sounds like he built up something better and has no miles on it.
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Old Aug 25, 2002 | 06:30 PM
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So if a guy had a 3.4L w/ cam, rollers, Ported and Polished everything, and exhaust, high flow cat, 9.5 to 1 compression would that give him 15.0 in the 1/4 and 200 hp at the fly wheel?
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Old Aug 25, 2002 | 07:15 PM
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dont know exactly how radical you can go with the 3.4L's cam, you probably can't go much further than you can with the 2.8L. Especially being that i've heard that the same measurements are used in the lope of the 2030 styled cam in a facotry 3.4L v6. not to sure, but having the larger valves should help a lot in that arena of still allowing better breathing. just remember, after a 3.4L swap, you'll need to find away to get another 40hp, which isn't nesecarily an easy thing to do. Best bet, build the motor to allow for a 150shot of NOS, then you'll be around the 310 hp range, and that'll put you in the high 13's. That'll be more than enough for you, and ur best bet on performance.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by Camaro_1986_19
Hmmm I dunno what V6's u guys have, My other friend A.J. has an 88 2.8 and runs 16 flats with only an exhaust and power chip
So are you saying that If put an exhaust and a chip on,lets say a 3.1L camaro, I should be in the low 15's. Screw a v-8 if this is true. This might spark life into people that don't want to spend alot of money and get a fast car . Hey I'll pay you for your trip to capitol raceway in crofton,MD if you can prove to run 16.00 or even close with a 2.8V6 with just exhaust and chip. I'll even give you some compensation money too.

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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 10:04 PM
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READ MORE Joe_L post shows what he has on that 2.8L to do it. YOU NEED more then exhaust and a chip.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 10:53 PM
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I don't have the exhaust and chip, I have that and more, My friend AJ has just the exhaust and chip that runs that time, I have been trying to get ahold of him, So far no luck
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by Camaro_1986_19
I don't have the exhaust and chip, I have that and more, My friend AJ has just the exhaust and chip that runs that time, I have been trying to get ahold of him, So far no luck
SO KNOCK OFF WITH THE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GIVE US A FULL LIST OF YOUR MODS. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF GUY IN THE 16'S... WE WANT TO KNOW HOW IN THE H**L YOU ARE RUNNING 15.5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 11:17 AM
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Joe_L just told you what he found out, it's a few posts up just read it, he has tons of crap on that 2.8 to do it too. Just read what Joe_L wrote.
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 01:43 PM
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MDv6, Camaro_1986_19 is only in the 15.5's in BS-land. He won't tell us what he's done, he won't ever show a timeslip, he won't even have a picture of his car!

Something interesting; this was posted on 8/19/2002, in the "What did you guys pay?" message, which is found at: https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=126466

Originally posted by Camaro_1986_19
Bought my 86 last August for 1700.00 and the body is flawless but it needs a paint job and the interior is in great condition, But mechanic wise........NOT SO GOOD, I am on the third motor that is currently getting rebuilt, Water Pump, Starter, O2 Sensor, Tune-Up, Heater Core, VSS. Hmmmm wonder why I kept it? I LOVE CAMARO'S THATS WHY
Now how could someone with a "not so good" engine pull a 15.5? Impossible. More fun:

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=110565

Camaro_1986_19, why do you talk all this crap? I don't understand!
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 02:19 PM
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I know he'll never post any real proof and even if he does he's going to have a hard time making believers out of us (or anyone else for that matter). How I'd love to see his mods-- how I'd love to see his turbo'ed 2.8-- How I'd love if he would quit being a Domestic F&F wannabe poser.

Camaro_1986_19 -- Wanna make a believer out of somebody? I'll be in Palmerton this Saturday. Yes that's Right Palmerton, PA. I'll be willing to drive up to Lehighton to see your time slip and mods. Time to put up or shut up. As they say money talks, walks. So what's it gonna Be? Tell your alter ego 85CamaroRulz I'll be up to see his turbo (or is he your butt buddy?)
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by Ryan_Alswede
Joe_L just told you what he found out, it's a few posts up just read it, he has tons of crap on that 2.8 to do it too. Just read what Joe_L wrote.
Sorry I think you miss read my post. I was posting proof that Camaro_1986_19 was giving us Because 89camaroRSV6 has done all that to his car and only recieved a 15.9. I do not want anyone thinking I am backing up 1986_19's BS pile.
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 04:04 PM
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Maybe when he says "Running 1/4 mile in 15.55" he means a FLYING measured 1/4 mile. Or maybe the laws of physics are different in Bizarro world, you know, the same one where you can buy hooker headers for the 2.8. Or maybe he just drove it off of a cliff and it FELL 1320 ft. in 15.55 seconds. Who knows?
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