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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 02:54 PM
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2 ram or not

should i go with ram air or cold air
i like the ram hood but would it really be worth it????

has anyone ever tested the difference between a ram and cold set up on our cars?????
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 02:54 PM
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i guess what i really need to know is
would the ram air II hood be worth the money performance wise or should i just save the money and go with a cold air set up???
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 03:16 PM
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Save the $$ and go with a cold air setup. On our engines, the result would be the same
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 03:20 PM
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REALLY????
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 03:32 PM
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i dont know about the ram air 2 hood thing too costy, but try the dual snorkel ram air, looks like a easy priced design, same $ it would take to make your own cold air. + ram air is colder air than in the fenders

i want a fiberglass hood, even if its the stock shape, the factory ones are soo heavy...
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by confucius101
REALLY????
Yes really. The Ram Air and cold air are the same thing in theory. Both seek to get colder air which is more dense into the intake. The gains come in when the motor can handle the additional air coming in. On our motors, other mods have to be done so the motor can take advantage of the additional air being "rammed" into it. Without any additional mods, I would say go with a cold air setup and use the $$ you save on a better cam, lifters, rockers etc... (unless of course you are asking which one looks better --- Ram air then )
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 05:22 PM
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Save the extra money of a ram air hood, and duct a cold air setup to the outside of the engine bay. just watch out for water. I would take the extra cash and use it for other minor mods.
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 05:32 PM
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MDv6man, I've gotta disagree. We don't need to put other mods into our motors for it to take advantage of a ram-air intake. Sure, other mods would help, but he'd still see a boost in performance with a stock motor and ram air. Although, I wouldn't suggest buying a whole hood for it! And if you think about it, ram air is really just a cold air intake, but with some kind of ducting leading from the front of the car to the air filter. Ram air won't "hurt" the motor, it could only help. The big point of fabbing any intake for our cars is to get rid of the ridiculously restrictive factory tubing!

RPS, the only fiberglass stock hood I've found is made by http://www.usbody.com . That's the only fiberglass hood I'd put on my car, it'd make absolutely no sense (to me) to put a hood on with a cowl induction scoop- I've got fuel injection, how would I benefit from a cowl induction hood?
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 08:20 PM
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Tomp, thanks for the link on the hood. I have been looking for one for my s10. Thats cheaper the then other site I found. Also helps they have a great display of "bodyparts"
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 08:34 AM
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MDv6man, I've gotta disagree. We don't need to put other mods into our motors for it to take advantage of a ram-air intake. Sure, other mods would help, but he'd still see a boost in performance with a stock motor and ram air. Although, I wouldn't suggest buying a whole hood for it! And if you think about it, ram air is really just a cold air intake, but with some kind of ducting leading from the front of the car to the air filter. Ram air won't "hurt" the motor, it could only help. The big point of fabbing any intake for our cars is to get rid of the ridiculously restrictive factory tubing!
I was stating that the $/gain in performance would be better used if he got a cold air intake and ported the heads (for better airflow) and intake rather than spend the $$ on the hood. Yes, both will provide a performance gain by getting rid of the restrictive routing, but I don't think ram air would give much more than a CAI.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 08:38 AM
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Tom great link........

i think i might just go for the hood
just for the look's i mean what the
hell it's only money RIGHT!!!

but now after looking at their photos
i kinda like the 2.5 twin turbo hood as well
what do you all think ??????
twin turbo (if it'll fit) or the ram II

but in the mean time i think i will try to put
together somsort of ram air set up.......
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 09:48 AM
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For the price of them hoods you could buy a whole car with a blown or missing engine with a cool hood.

And yea Tom cowl induction hoods are dumb as hell.

68-69 bird hood dual scoops can be easily grafted into your hood.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 10:25 AM
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I'd actually like to try making my own hood one day, using my original hood as a mold. Course, I have many things to do before that time comes, and by then, I'll probably be a retired millionaire, and might as well just buy their hood.

I did feel an improvement when I relocated my air filter so it was "ram air", as opposed to a cold air. Original location was in front of the radiator- cold air. New location was underneath the battery tray of the passenger side, above the fender bracket, with the plastic that covers the bottom of the fender (Firebirds) bent down to expose the filter.
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 03:19 PM
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doesnt SLP sell a CAI setup for 199$ and the Ram Air Hood for are cars are 550$ hmmmmmmm:lala: guess it depends if its carburated or fuel injected huh?
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 03:24 PM
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the only thing stopping me from getting the hood so far is that simple fact that it's gonna cost a **** load of cash just in shipping let alone the hood and let's not forget about the painting but we'll see
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 03:31 PM
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Tom, I have built my own carbon fiber hood for my s10, unless your going with some totaly off the wall design, I have found it is cheaper to buy one, then to make one. Just trying to give ya some insights, and not trying to turn ya away.
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