what do you guy's think about this???????
or have any of you ever tried this?????

www.turbonator.com

 

Those types of devices are supposed to create a vortex effect in the incoming air charge. This is supposed to create a swirl effect which promotes more efficient combustion. Your heads and valves have far more say in that than an helical piece of metal does. IMO, this goes against the common wisdom of maintaining a smooth airflow into the intake manifold (the concept behind throttle body-mounted airfoils like the one TPIS sells.)

 

Its a gimmick, save your money. Unless the air is forced(Pressurized by a turbo or supercharger) into the cylinder, the cylinder will only draw in the same amount of air unless it is restricted. This device does nothing to help unrestrict the air flow and if anything (Like Rag stated) it can possibly disrupt air flow. If it does help, it would be only in the most minuit way, certainly not worth $70 bucks.

 

Just always think to yourself when you see sh*t like this:

"Have I ever seen this used on a race car?" The answer 99 of 100 times is NO.

 

AFrikanGoodTime, thank you for beating me to it, and the same goes for all those other gimmicks like K&N, Trottle body coolent bypass, splitfire plugs, injector cleaners, octan boost, +4 tipped Bosh spark plugs, "no smoke", coolent stop leak. Racers want the same thing we do, MAX HP for MAX MPG.

 

Hey, don't diss the K&N now! Granted, you're not gonna make nowhere near 20 horses like the commercials say..that's total BS...but it is a damn good filter! Flows WAY more than we need... But I hear ya about the octane booster..I've been fooled by that more than I'd like to admit. Anyone ever buy the NOS brand booster?

 

LOL your not going to make any HP form K&N that you could ever use. And they don't help gas mileage either.

 

Maybe on an engine already producing 500+ hp you might see an noticeable increase....but on a motor making 140.....not likely. Your time would be better spent modifying our restrictive intake setup to flow better. On our motor, K&N is like stepping up to 8 mm plug wires- a good foundation, but not a power adder.

 

Well on my 1992 they use a different set-up where the air comes in by the right side fender thru a round cylinder air filter housing and filter. Not restrictive at all, all the duct work and main opening are larger then the butterfly's diameter so no way.

 

Have you actually seen the size of the opening on that cylinder? Even AFTER I took the little plastic horn off (which had an opening only an inch and a half wide), the new opening was only about two inches.

 

Yep YOU ever take off you hose and looked at the butterfly same size.

 

That little tiny "Filter in a Can" is a huge restriction. Ask anyone who's made or bought a CAI for the 3.1 There's a huge difference even if that's your only mod and after an exhaust upgrade, it's an even bigger difference.
David

 

After I swapped for a K&N, I screwed the MAT sensor out of the can, tossed it, and laid the filter down flat against the part where the can rested, and ran the sensor up inside..just had to tape off a few holes..and then put the lid on the filter itself and hooked it up..made a nice difference, pulling air from all sides. That little horn is crap.

BTW, sure it's around the same size as the butterfly...but still we want to make as much air available as possible, so the more opening for air flow the better...plus it should get a better pull when you step on the gas, it can get more air quicker

 

LOL you guys are fooling yourselfs you are getting no benefit, and using tape and butchering stuff and removing stuff is just sad and shows the lack of science education.

I don't need to ask anybody that, LOL, I know from the rules of physics that your butchering is getting you no benefit. And the proof is the DYNO! Zipo! Just makes your car look choped up and trashed under the hood for nothing.

Now your pulling in air from the hot side of the radiator.

The horn is there just to add a deeper sound, has no effect on performence. Ram air system like on SS camaros where it pulls the air in from the front of the radiator are nice and like a Viper system right through the hood. But remember those are BIG engines that produce HP. Our 6ers don't benifit.

 

Numbers from a dyno aren't the only thing to consider. How quickly the engine revs because of more air available and the actual torque curve is what you feel on the street.
David

 

I see what you're saying and I'd tend to agree with the numbers...but I can feel a difference, and if you ask a lot of people on here, I think they'd be inclined to agree, despite the #'s and science behind it. Now I DO agree that my current setup isnt helping me any because, even thought the filter pickup is a conical in front of the radiator and gets air going through the grille, it's running through crap ducting with too many bends...nullifies any benefits. Plus Dynos cancel out any kind of ram air effect on the street.

btw-my current setup is NOT the can-less one I talked about, but I think I made that kinda obvious.

 

Well put a HUGE fan in front of your car, you still won't see any change. The #'s don't lie.

 

It's too late for me, I'm not even gonna try to argue this. All I can say is, I feel a difference. And I know the difference between THINKING I feel a difference and actually feeling one.. Psychological is like..high test gas...octane booster..new oil..

 

I agree with you Nixon1 on the new oil feeling but at least there is science behind that one. But I do love the feeling, wish I had a 8 gal tank like the nascar boys so the new oil feeling would last longer. LOL

 

Ha...yeah, I hear ya. I wish I lived up north so I could run 24/7 on that cold dense air!!

 

It works, but the gain is so small you won't even notice it unless you had a large V8. Don't buy it. Your car will be just as fast as it was before.