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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 03:17 PM
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Ohh S***!

Ok bad stuff, i have thick oil in my coolant. There is however no coolant in my crankcase. WTF is goin on... i thought head gasket but you ussually get antifreeze in the crankcase if your head gasket goes. The oil comes back after ive flushed the system of antifreeze. Big problem? i cant afford a big problem... i need my car. help
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 03:29 PM
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Doesnt nesc mean you blew the head/gasket, could be somewhere in the block where the oil creates more pressure then the coolent system is creating.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 03:42 PM
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how fast do you think this will kill her? I need her to last until i get enough to buy a camaro
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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ok it came to me it might be ATF in the coolant. My rad has some of that goop repair crap on the fins. I cant see the color of the crap in the antifreeze and it smells like antifreeze so i cant smell it possibility?
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 06:22 PM
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yeah, very well could be ATF. The fluid runs into the radiator for cooling and if you have an internal leak in the radiator, then that's the problem. Sorry to hear about that man. Sucks.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 09:52 PM
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yeah, very well could be ATF. The fluid runs into the radiator for cooling and if you have an internal leak in the radiator, then that's the problem. Sorry to hear about that man. Sucks.
Bingo- that's the only way. Oil will not transfer into the coolant and NOT visa versa- it just cannot happen physically. Coolant will mix to oil easier than the other way. I has to be tranny fluid- bad radiator.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 12:46 PM
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I run and open vented PVC system.

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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 12:50 PM
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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Uhh.. Gumby.. I think you're on the wrong thread
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:30 PM
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yeah, very well could be ATF. The fluid runs into the radiator for cooling and if you have an internal leak in the radiator, then that's the problem. Sorry to hear about that man. Sucks.
thats what came to my mind when he said engine oil was fine....
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 02:37 PM
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The internally leaking rad sounds good to me, although I have a 5-speed. Taking the rad out and replacing it shouldn't be a very big or expensive job.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 04:58 PM
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can't he just flush and refill the coolant for now and keep the ATF level up? that should buy some time if it's not a really bad leak. does that radiator stop leak stuff work? tried it on a Cavalier once
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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can't he just flush and refill the coolant for now and keep the ATF level up? that should buy some time if it's not a really bad leak. does that radiator stop leak stuff work? tried it on a Cavalier once

um.

think about this.



he probly has coolent in his automatic trans.......


would YOU drive your car with water in the trans?


i would have the trans powerflushed and refill it.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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no coolant in the trans .. its nice and red still. Its also full. I cannot tell the color of the oil substance in my coolant, nor could i smell anything other then coolant. When it sat in the container it mixed togheter and made some thick dark green coolant that when i put a stick into the bottle it stayed on the stick
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 06:52 PM
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If you can't tell what color it is, it looks like anti-freeze, and smells like anti-freeze, then how do you know you have a problem? Drain the Radiator into a pan or something, let it sit overnight. Engine oil will rise to the top of the pan, while ATF will sink to the bottom, IIRC. Either way, even if the ATF does also coe to the top, you should be able to stick your finger in there and tell what it is when you pull it out. I'm betting that you have a leak inside the radiator so you are trading water and ATF between the two sections. have the radiator replaced, then have the radiator and trans flushed. That'll take care of it for ya.
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 07:13 AM
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Definetly drain rad & see what it looks like after it sits in the drain pan.
Yes power flushing would be highly recommended.
If you do not powerflush the tranny, THEN your problem may be expensive.
Seesm like you're at teh point where ya better attend to it soon.
I've gotten a good radiator at the local yard for $30.
MAKE SURE you score a V8 radiator, it's slightly larger & fits just as well as the V6 one!
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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yeah, my money's on the radiator. I'd recommend just spending the $120 on a new radiator. They are plastic and prone to leakage, keep that in mind before making your decision to buy used.
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 05:09 AM
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How to scre teh PERFECT used wrecking yard radiator,
FIND all the options in the yard & pull them (it takes about two minutes to remove a wrecking yard radiator!).
Look outside for any brown stain marks indicating leakage.
NEXT look INSIDE for any dirty brown muddy signs in the two tubes.
IF that test passes, you find the perfect wrecking yard radiator.
ALSO before ya remove it, look at engine.
IF ya see fresh water pump or fresh hoses, also, you know the person "took care" of the cooling system.
Use a hack saw to remove the rad, just saw thru all lines/hoses! SECONDS OF WORK!
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