does anybody know when we can start ordering these and how much will they cost? will a set of 2.8 headers for an s10 work on our cars? i have a chance to buy a set i was wondering. if a custom y-pipe had to be bent to make them work i could have that done at an exhaust shop near my house.

 

s10 headers will not work. Someone on here before I joined took some 4th gen 3.4 headers and made them work.

No clue on price and time.

 

I have another e-mail into Mr Gerle today staying on top of them with this effort. We have to still let them know there is a "strong" interest. I don't what this to die off for any reason. Please do the same, we need smog legal headers.

 

Hi All!
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, the Street Legal PaceSetter Headers ARE AVAILABLE.
The price is $350
AND YOU GET THE NECESSARY "Y" PIPE IN THAT PACKAGE which hooks ya directly CORRECTLY to the "Cat Convertor".
9/10ths of the PaceSetter Exhaust Header system power comes from this necessary "part of the package "Y" pipe".
Tell Mr. Gerle I'll be saying hi to him in about 4 or slightly more weeks.
I can't wait to get the full engine to tailpipe exhaust tip set up from them! Full on 2 1/2" pipes!
AND HiPo Muffler, too!
fgerle@pacesetterexhaust.com
Attached is the prototype pic, fresh off the "engineering mule".

 

Man I would have loved to get those on my car... too bad it died...

 

Thanks for asking this! Good thing I looked around before making a new post. I'm back here in Africa and will probably get a set since I'm making extra $$$. Getting ready to put the TA in the shop fora few goodies too!

 

The headers are about 350 dollars. But they won't be available till late summer early fall. E-mailed the guys yesterday.

 

Its cool headers are avail and all but isnt pacesetter's stuff sort of crappy?

I know beggers cant be picky , Just wondering what others thought.

 

do the headers come looking like the picture or are they chromed ????????????? cause for 350 they should be chromed

 

The pictured product is Pacesetter's working fitment prototype, man.

br()bert, pacesetter actually makes a very decent product. Their name just isn't common in the V8 market, where competition for market share is already insanely feirce

 

Well lets see... big V8 header manufacturers... Flow master... Hedman... Flowtech... Hooker... just to name a few. And yes Pacesetter also makes V8 headers.
They have a good and strong name in the "outside the standard V8 Box" world that you are not accustomed too.

They make headers for some seriously odd and old cars. I have seen them for Fiats, Spyders, MGB's and alot of the I4 and V6 cars of the world.

 

A price for a set of pipes for a Corvette (a modern one & street legal) is pushing like $700+.
Same price range for Mustang/Camaro/Firebird.
We 3rd Gen V6ers got us a VERY fair deal.
And yes that is a prototype pic, fresh from engineering mule.
I can't wait to give PaceSetter my business!

 

Dont know how you come to those prices but you can pick up some v8 headers for $250-300 easy. Sure some are priced so high its stupid but not all (or many) are.

Yeah i guess the price aint bad since you get the y pipe too.

But pacesetter? I have seen their headers before (obviously not 60* ones)

Not impressive at all.

 

...Hater. All of the stainless/coated hedders I've seen for V8's are in the 350-700 range. You can get a cheap set of Flowtechs for 200 bux though.....

 

Hey hey now... No need for that behavior, FBodTrek...

Yes, a set of thermal coated headers + Y pipe, will run $500-$700 for a V8.

I'm with brobert tho... Pacesetter is not known for super high quality - but hell, it's better than nothing, right??

 

YOu must either be in need of some glasses or your looking in the wrong places.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33631

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...23428%20302006

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...23428%20300760

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...23428%20300771

All VERY under $700. These are just a few quick examples.

 

Also, please be aware that the odds are, the Pacesetter headers will be nothing more than mild steel, with a cheap black painting.

 

Yeah its WAY better then the POS stock exhaust manifolds those engines come with.

 

so are these headers going to make a difference or are they a waste of money cause i need to know cause i got better stuff to spend my money on

 

HEY
BEFORE YA ALL KEEP DUMPING ON.....
Serious my prices for new pipes for new cars is from dealer ads in Corvette Fever, Hot Rod, Car Craft, etc.
Example
Street Legal Performance
LS6 Pipes $799.95-NOT including H Pipe, installation kit.
Hi Flo CCs $399.95
Combo price & a LS7 fender badge for your Corvette $2969.95 (other pipe stuff included)
I tried to find a Fbody set of pipes prices for NEW from an ad in a Chevy High Performance.
WE ALL AGREE
IF YA shop around
ya find a better price on LOTS OF STUFF (Women included or Mistresses if ya married!).
FOR THIS SPECIFIC 3rd Gen F Body V6 Street Legal exhaust system?
Who else ya gonna call?
The PaceSetter price is fair trade for the Exhaust product.
Let us embrace a fellow friend (PaceSetter Exhaust) of our underdog V6 that listened to a voice (me!) speak for all of us.....

 

AND Now for something completely different!
Sorry if this gets locked, but it's been a very trying hot day for me out here & this is my momentary distraction diversion brain fart!
Hope all out in Santa Clarita fire are doing well!

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You know this rule is there, you knowingly disregarded it. I'm not locking entire threads for one person's disregard for TGO rules, I'm going after the individuals. Future violations of this nature will result in probation, suspension, or banning.

-TechSmurf

 

lmfao! Ked thats VERY out of character of you! NICE PICTURE!

 

"saved" LOL

But yeah, I am not saying that Pacesetter is the end all in headers. But they do have a strong following in the "out of normal" car owners.
They got and keep that reputation for doing things exactly like they did here.
They will come to a groups answer and aid if they really push.

And if you do not like the black paint, blast 'em and have 'em coated.

Br()bert, CHEAP V8 headers are 100 reange. Yes cheap in every sense of the word. Made the the exact same as the pacesetter, and out of the same material the same even down to the same $hitty black paint.
GOOD headers, start in the 350-400 range for a V8. Same as our range.
And just as a question, why are you throwing a fit about them anyway? It's not like you drive a V6 camaro anymore? So why do you care?
Hell I do not even OWN a V6 camaro anymore, mine got hauled off Tuesday to the yard. I still HELP with tech on the boards though. And yes for the Money, the Pacesetters are better than ANY OTHER option out there.

 

this will probly get deleted but what the hell...
what would the group have paid the guy behind her with the cutting untencil to do....

 

I NEVER drove a v6 camaro to begin with.
Yeah cheap headers for the v8 are around $100 ($90 to be exact) BUT someone said the headers for the v8 were $700, i was just giving examples is all. VERY decent headers for the v8 for the same (or less) $ as the "pacesetter" headers for the 6.

BUT as usual someone can post any false information pertaining to a v8 and its fine. Let some correct them or discuss that comment and they are bagged on.

 

I got that picture in an email. The punchline was: Optical illusion -- if you look close enough, you can see a boat behind her.

 

how much of a power increase should we see out of these headers

 

back to the orignal post.

While I was gone this weekend, pacesetter emailed me back and said they have a goal of end of july 04.

Didnt quote a price.

 

I threw out the pic cause I was tired of the debate.
The price example I offered is from the Sept 2004 issue of Corvette Fever & SLP is the manufacturer of those those/prices I mentioned.
Pipes for new cars do go for that price range.
If ya score those new car pipes for less, right on.
I also threw out that anyone can find something for less.
Including free pics on the internet!

Drop the bummin on price debate, it's useless point for arguing.
Be happy someone heard me for all of us.

PS
Techsmurf! Hi!
My tranny "died" today in the extreme heat in LA.
It's working/shifting proper again after I let car & outside air temps become cooler.
It was a long day & as I said a brain fart.
No need for extreme for a bit fun moment, as ya know what I stand for.
TRUTH, JUSTICE & THE AMERICAN WAY

ONE MAJOR REQUEST
NO political affiliations in a signature, please.
I get bombarded with enough BS in political ads, I don't care to see "political affiliations" in a signature, either.
I KNOW GUMBY TO BE A GREAT GUY, TOO!
I'm not razzing on him, just that "political ad" in his signature.
Thanks!-Karl

 

I'm sorry it was a crappy day for you, but by this line alone, you KNEW it was wrong. If you knew it was wrong, it was intentional disregard for the rules. Intentional disregard for the rules is met with the extreme.

 

Glad the pic got removed before I stumbled across it at work! Anyway, I agree w/v6sucker; the best idea is to nix any black paint and have the headers jet-hot coated or any other ceramic-coating joint. I think it's around $50/$75 set to have 'em coated.

Also as far as I ever heard about the Pacesetter 3.4 headers for a 4th gen f-body, nobody ever complained about the quality or the fit.

 

Our headers are also available from Pacesetter with their ArmorCoat in case anyone forgot. But it's $500 with the coating.

 

I KNOW!
Please don't slap the wrist I burnt while changing radiator anti-freeze to hopefully keep my tranny going!
But I'm afraid I went thru another tranny!
Sorry ya had to to bothered by my and now for something completely different

 

Off-topic reply to the off-topic issue... a word of advice from the arizona sonoran desert: 160-175 degree thermostat + most obnoxious transmission cooler you can find (got a 16-pass unit from Checker) + adding auxilliary turn-on switch for cooling fan and tending to leave it on == your 700R4's best friend

 

are the 3.4 v6 motors out of the newer camaros and are they quicker ?

 

THANKS!!!!
I've got a 90 V6 tranny to rebuild!
I've been abusing my car for past too long & it got caught up
3.4 mills came in 1993 - 1995 F Body.
PRODUCTION OF 3.8 started in Late 1994 for the remainder of the 1995 production run.
This "same" V660* mill is under the hood of the 2005 Caddy also.
AND AUTOWEEK RAVES ABOUT THE 2005 60*V6 mill, too!
Happy to have off topic help in another topic!

 

how come people swap there 2.8 and 3.1 motors for the 3.4.....why dont they just sawp it with a v8

 

its easier to do. there isnt as much to change over. you reuse all the stuff from the 2.8/3.1. do a search on it and if youre looking into swapping, itll help you decide what to do.

 

The swap boogie mission also depends upon usage of your ride in end.
Street legal smaog checked or good old back street racer image.
My choice was street legal smog checked as I live in SoCal so choice of upgrading to V8 wasn't "possible" without extra hoops.
My swap is seamless in apperance. You see a 2.8 when ya open the hood. Perfect for smog check.
And a 3.4 does very well in the driving on street fun factor. Gas milage is GREAT, too! So is insurance!
All around a very fair upgrade for the effort (a 3.4 mill)

 

oh, i thought you would have to change everything you have to do when you swap a v8

 

I've seen all of the header debates going around and I just wanted to say for the price the headers I got (PFE) are great. They are everything I expected and are currently available.

But anyhow the pacesetters look nice but if you want headers NOW like I did you won't be disappointed in the PFE headers. Not trying to debate which is better or cheaper, just making a point that they are currently available and I like 'em.

 

hey white power how much of a difference have you noticed with new headers ? Top speed improvement ? more low end torque ? just better all around ?

 

What about engine operating temps?
Or interior heat & noise level?

 

also does you exhuast sound any different at all ???????