v6 with TPI intake
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From: liverpool, NY
Car: 92 camaro RS
Engine: 3.1 V6..stock exept v8 intake
Transmission: 700r4
v6 with TPI intake
ive recently put the TPI intake on my 3.1 v6 and i thought id give some instructions on how to install it and all the stuff you need.
you will need :
Dual snorkle air box and the bottom part it snaps onto
2 air filters
a 1' long piece of 3" PVC
wire to extend the sensor to reach the new sensor on the dual snorkle (speaker wire will work)
2 3" rubber boots with the clamps on them
ok to start off install the new bottom piece of the dual snorkle in place of the old one.
paint 1' long of PVC the color of your choice if you want
put 1 rubber boot on each end of the 3" PVC pipe
tighten the clamps the the pipe
snap the dual snorkle in place
put one rubber boot over the throttle body intake
then put the other end on the intake of the dual snorkle
then connect the extended wire to the new sensor on the dual snorkle
now your done
you should get a noticable power increase
you will need :
Dual snorkle air box and the bottom part it snaps onto
2 air filters
a 1' long piece of 3" PVC
wire to extend the sensor to reach the new sensor on the dual snorkle (speaker wire will work)
2 3" rubber boots with the clamps on them
ok to start off install the new bottom piece of the dual snorkle in place of the old one.
paint 1' long of PVC the color of your choice if you want
put 1 rubber boot on each end of the 3" PVC pipe
tighten the clamps the the pipe
snap the dual snorkle in place
put one rubber boot over the throttle body intake
then put the other end on the intake of the dual snorkle
then connect the extended wire to the new sensor on the dual snorkle
now your done
you should get a noticable power increase
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Car: 85 firebird
Engine: Pos 2.8 pulled and replaced with a 350 tpi motor converted to carb.
Transmission: 700r4, vette servo,shift kit, hayden 15"x8" trans cooler.
No replies because its a "Duh" thing.
Like who could'nt figure out how to put one on?
Like who could'nt figure out how to put one on?
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That, and it's lacking... soldering is not mentioned for the wire extension (neccessary to maintain accuracy of sensors... I don't reccomend butt connectors when delicate measurements are at stake), or heat shrink tubing (don't want to short those IAT wires either), or a solution to the PCV breather filter you just eliminated... can't plug it off, can't leave it open to dirty air... I'm sure there's more I could point out, but I'm not the one trying to write the how-to
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i was just trying to help other people out because when i was wondering how to hook up the dual snorkle there were alot of people that were wondering the same thing
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hah! When he said TPI, I thought for a minute he meant the plenum, I was hoping to see a pic of this, then I realized he meant the dual snorkel
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Its appreciated on the info, im sure someone will find this useful. I would have if I had gotten the setup before I ran a CAI.
.Its appreciated on the info, im sure someone will find this useful. I would have if I had gotten the setup before I ran a CAI.
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Filter choice can make or break this mod. I know it may be not "great" but I bet if you used some cheap filters you could lose a HP or two.
the two filter, with double hoses can make it "harder" for the engine to suck through both.
I would use some super easy flow through foam filters rather than a cotton type filter. That way air flows through with out any work what so ever.
A V8 car yes dual filters. but a small 6 may not have enough sucking power to even use both proper and maybe even hinder a 6 if the filter are cheap / thick cotton n don't flow well.
the two filter, with double hoses can make it "harder" for the engine to suck through both.
I would use some super easy flow through foam filters rather than a cotton type filter. That way air flows through with out any work what so ever.
A V8 car yes dual filters. but a small 6 may not have enough sucking power to even use both proper and maybe even hinder a 6 if the filter are cheap / thick cotton n don't flow well.
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That's gotta be one of the most interesting physics theories I've read in a while, Gumby.. but.. it's so wrong, it's just not funny.
Engines aren't supposed to have to "suck" through the filters. The main pressure differential is generally at the throttle body. Air attempts to fill the vacuum in the manifold, and does cause a pressure loss on the outside of the TB, but it's by no means "sucking" through the filters.. look at the air in the intake tract as more of a resevoir than a high velocity path. The filters have to flow enough to replenish the resevoir. There are some pumping losses, granted, however, a bigger engine is *not* going to make the setup better. The pressure difference between atmosphere and the intake tract will be greater the more air is being demanded from it, meaning a bigger engine will incur more pumping losses. Cotton gauze is also free-flowing enough to neutralize this effect entirely, not just foam.
EDIT -- At WOT, the pressure differential should not occur at the TB. If it does, the TB is restrictive. At WOT, the main plenum space should become an extension of the intake tract.. a resevoir of full atmosphere air (which is rarely 100% achieved, but is the idea). In a perfect world, it occurs right at the intake valve.
Engines aren't supposed to have to "suck" through the filters. The main pressure differential is generally at the throttle body. Air attempts to fill the vacuum in the manifold, and does cause a pressure loss on the outside of the TB, but it's by no means "sucking" through the filters.. look at the air in the intake tract as more of a resevoir than a high velocity path. The filters have to flow enough to replenish the resevoir. There are some pumping losses, granted, however, a bigger engine is *not* going to make the setup better. The pressure difference between atmosphere and the intake tract will be greater the more air is being demanded from it, meaning a bigger engine will incur more pumping losses. Cotton gauze is also free-flowing enough to neutralize this effect entirely, not just foam.
EDIT -- At WOT, the pressure differential should not occur at the TB. If it does, the TB is restrictive. At WOT, the main plenum space should become an extension of the intake tract.. a resevoir of full atmosphere air (which is rarely 100% achieved, but is the idea). In a perfect world, it occurs right at the intake valve.
Last edited by TechSmurf; Jun 29, 2004 at 05:33 AM.
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