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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 06:18 AM
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Car: 92 firebird
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hi guys iv got a 1992 3.1 V6 firebird, iv been looking at the board for a while and found it very helpfull so i thought id introduce my self, names nick i live in kent in the uk and have had a few american cars starting with a 78 caprice clasic V8 and a 72 elcamino custom( what a ride) and i just got back in to american cars. i use it daily hense why i got a V6 as the fuel costs loads over here. i have a few problems with the running of the car but i wont go in to that yet as i will be using the search button and going through all the sensors, if someone could give me a full list of sensors that the ecu (ecm) uses to keep the thing running true and fair i would appreciate it.
all the best and i hope to be speakijng with you soon.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 06:22 AM
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Car: 92 firebird
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the rear end
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 06:23 AM
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Car: 92 firebird
Engine: 3.1 V6
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can you see the neons ?
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 06:24 AM
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Car: 85 firebird
Engine: Pos 2.8 pulled and replaced with a 350 tpi motor converted to carb.
Transmission: 700r4, vette servo,shift kit, hayden 15"x8" trans cooler.
I dont know the list of sensors but nice car an dwelcome to tgo.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 10:07 AM
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS Vert
Engine: 350 S-TPI
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nice looking car.

List of sensors (or part)
TPS (throttle position sensor)
IAC (idle air control valve)
Oxygen sensor
Map or Maf depending on year
EGR valve
VSS (depending on make/year)



Things needed in good shape not ecm noticed
pvc valve
clean injectors
good spark system (plugs, coil, wires, distrib cap)
timing
clear cat converter

Welcome to the boards
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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Engine: LS1 - 346 ci
Transmission: 4L60E
Going into further detail about the sensors Dale posted, your car has:

MAP - Manifold Absolute Pressure (3.1s were the only V6s that got these)
EGR - yours is digital, I hear its an expensive replacement (if you do need one, I say hit the junkyards and get one off a FWD 60° V6)
VSS- Vehicle Speed sensor- your car has this, its in the tranny where a speedo cable normally goes.

I think everything else is right. Definitely do a TomP tuneup, I'm sure its on the sticky at the top of this board.

Good looking car, good luck and welcome to the boards!
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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Nice car, looks clean.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 01:40 PM
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welcome to the boards and i gotta say thats a beatiful bird
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 02:23 PM
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Car: 91' Firebird
Engine: 3.1L V6
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23's
Nice Bird looks exactly like mine. Def do Tomp's tune up it works wonders.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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Car: 1991 Trans Am GTA
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Nice clean bird. I don't see many clean v6's esp. 91-92, since most are crapped out where I live.


I'd love to get one like yours as a daily driver.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS Vert
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Transmission: T5
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IAT, intake air temp sensor
ECT, engine coolent temp sensor

their is also ac compressor sensor, power steering sensor.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 04:56 PM
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And for that '92, there's also a knock sensor, correct?

Since we're listing everything for the motor (hey this should be a collaborative tech article!!)...

There's also the combination oil-pressure-sender/fuel-pump-switch. (It's the somewhat large "can" by the oil filter's mount.) The pressure sender is for the dash (for full gauges, it's a sender- for idiot light dashboards, it's a switch). The fuel pump switch will bypass the pump relay and send +12 volts to the fuel pump for as long as there's oil pressure. That's why sometimes, when you shut the car off, you may hear the fuel pump stay energized for a second or two- that's the oil pressure slowly bleeding off to zero. 85-86 (and maybe '87?) 2.8's received separate sensors instead of a single larger sensor.

Fan switch is located in the outermost corner of the Rear of the passenger side head (single green wire). This is what kicks the fan on at 230 degrees; the computer will also turn the fan on, but this is the fail-safe.

Dale, is "ECT" a new label? I haven't seen it yet. Rexer, you might also see the "ECT" labeled as "CTS" (Coolant Temp Sensor), and the "IAT" labeled as "MAT" (Manifold Air Temp).

Oh and welcome to the forums!
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS Vert
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Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: GU5/G80/J65
Good one tomp, forgot about the knock sensor.

On my charts, its called ECT, and IAT

Fan switch is for 2.8 only, us 3.1 guys it is controlled via ECM
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS Vert
Engine: 350 S-TPI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: GU5/G80/J65


Belts to used to still show its length, but their is a LARGE gap in whats avaliable here, thus why I have a custom alt bracket.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 12:48 AM
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Very nice bird. I wish mine looked like that.

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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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From: kent England
Car: 92 firebird
Engine: 3.1 V6
Transmission: 5 speed manual
Axle/Gears: t5 and standary rear end
tomp

oil pressure fuel switch thing... i take it if you loose oil pressure for some reason this device will shut the fuel off and that will kill the engine. i like it. bet its a bugger if it goes wrong though. i can see me getting a non start and it will look like a fuel pump/electrical problem but its just a dodgy oil pressure sensor stopping the fuel pump from being switched on. definatly one to look out for on any non start problem.
Nick
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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Car: 1990 firebird
Engine: 3.1 v6
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thats sweet, i never liked the front of the 90-92's but its growing on me, i want one now!
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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Car: 1991 Firebird
Engine: V6
Transmission: ATOD
nice looking car man
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 01:50 PM
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this is what mine used to look like, side note:::: the white spots are only camera glares
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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Car: 91 Firebird
Engine: 191ci 6cyl
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http://www.sounddomain.com/id/nocturnall

there's mine

Need's paint badly.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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Car: 92 Precision Red Firebird
Engine: v6->357 vortec xe262h rpm intake
Transmission: t5-> t56
Axle/Gears: 10bolt 3.42s
Yea i see alot of bad v6s

but fortunately mine is a different story!

and yes i have removed that ***-awful front plate
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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Nice looking car! Hope to see more of it.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by Dale
Fan switch is for 2.8 only, us 3.1 guys it is controlled via ECM
Thanks for the info!
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