Ok, I'm just a messenger at this point. I'm up in KY writing a paper for class tomorrow and I'm relaying what's being told to me on the phone by doward. First run was a 16.4........@94mph. I don't have much info since he's just texting me at the moment...but I'm sure there's traction problems!!!!! It's about a 15 mph increase so far. I'm not good with mph conversions....but i believe that's a mid-low 14 right???....anyways...more to come.

 

update....new time....16.6@95.64mph....almost another 2mph. This time he bogged it off the line trying to take off slow. Still getting no traction. 60' time of 3.84!!!! . He's still spinning stomping it in 2nd gear at around 40mph.

 

well usually when your spinning too much you let off the gas.

 

if you let off the gas...you're times DROP! 94-96 mph is about a 14.3-14.5 mph. once he can hook up...mid 14s will be no problem!!

 

...he tried taking off slow and bogged the second time, then hit the gas to keep from bogging, started spinning....and ended up with the 3.84 60'. He's only got 2 runs in thus far....hard to launch a turbo vehicle on one leg, with a stick, and bald rear tires....lol. He's gonna call again when he's got a few more runs in.

 

If you keep in the gas and sit there spinning your time is gonna suck also. Theres more to racing then getting in the car and stomping the gas down.

Lower the air pressure in the rear tires.

Dont floor it

If it bogs then back to tuning you go.

Sounds like he has some tuning to do.

 

Yup...doing that too as he's going. Making adjustments here and there on the computer. He hasn't had the chance to get some real feedback on computer changes until now.

 

And remember everyone....this is only at 7psi!!!

 

seems like a waist of time, learning what rpm to launch at and to slip or dump should be done in a parking lot or something, not at the last second

 

The street is a LITTLE different than at a track. I know with my truck i can just about launch like a bat outta hell on the street. I try that the same way at Gainesville raceway.....I'm sitting still burning up my one tire. Have you driven at a track before? Gainesville also put down some new track material at the beginning of the racing year...not sure exactly what it is. The street and track are two different things.

 

Yea, ya gotta have good tires. Bald street tires don't act like slicks. They are like snot on wet ice. Especially on a drag track.

 

yea...learning to launch for the track cannot be done on the street or in a parking lot... my car will spin quite a bit on the street but at the track...lay it to the floor and it hooks and goes.

 

Dowards Christmas list-

Dear Santa, I want an Auburn Posi.

 

lol. last i heard he has a heavy duty zexel torsen unit to put in it. he just hasn't had time to put it in.

 

Damn, thats some good news for V6 owners who think they are at a dead end. And really good news for those people who put a 3.4L in as an upgrade. Add dowards kit, if he goes ahead and produces it and you possibly have a 13 second ride. Add more boost and who know's what could happen. Maybe BOOM if you aren't careful.

Very glad to hear when Doward, Vortex, or Tech Smurf succeeds with these projects even though I don't own a V6 car.

I still want to turbo my GTA though. :lala:

 

Hell yeah!

http://www.bmrfabrication.com/FeatureCars/RickH.htm
:hail:

BTW a Vid would be cool if possible. (of doward i mean)

One thing I think all of us can agree on, weather your a v6 man, v8 man, or a jap car man. TURBO"S are cool as , well you know.

 

He has to be faster than that if he pulled on a 350z....i think if he gets some tires and posi....leans how to launch good, he could definatly have high 13s!

 

not neccessarily, 1/4 time is only PART of performance. Having the turbo gives him the adavantage on top end v. a n/a vehicle. Even if 1/4 mile times are the same....after 1/4 doward is still pulling well to 120 while the 350z is leveling off. Anyways...doward is on the way home, he had a better e.t. on the last run, but ran into a hazard on the track......nothing major....i'll let him tell ya'll when he get's back

 

Yeah, I'm pissed.

How the hell does a TRACK OFFICIAL not notice a 4' stick of exhaust at the end of the track?

Final run of the day -

15.7 @ 93 mph - that was with me SLAMMING THE BRAKES ON at about 20' from the end of the track.

2.7 60' on that one.

To whomever was giving me hell about the 16.x @ 96 mph, Ever thought maybe I wasn't trying to launch? Just maybe I was looking for an increase in MPH at the end, to give me an idea of total HP increase?

Gumby's right - bald tires (I'm talking down to steel threads here man!) on a track are about equal to snot mixed with KY spread over some ice. Slick.

As for the 350z pulling, yes, I know I did now! I did get to run with a G35 (same thing as a 350z, just an Infinity) and he was consistantly trapping 94-95 mph.

Dean, I appreciate it - I've got a HD Zexel sitting in my living room, I've got the 28spline axles, a spare 3.42 gear set, and 2 full differential housings. I just haven't had time to put it all together, and get it under the car! The LSD, LCA's and LCA brackets all will go on together, at the same time. :hail:

Yes, the kits will definetly be produced. Track MPH times are indicating that this 7psi kit has added 91 RWHP. And I haven't finished tuning it yet!

Anyone want 100rwhp turbo kits? What is that, like a 75% increase in power? ALMOST DOUBLE THE POWER???

Actually, current MPH times suggest 9.1 1/8th mile times, and 14.2 1/4 mile times. Again, not finished tuning - and November 6th is Dyno Day. :hail:

*EDIT*

Also, if I'm not mistaken... isn't a 96mph trap speed higher than any stock 3rd gen V8 equipped car? I don't think even the L98s were trapping that high! Hell, I think I'm in LT1 territory!!

 

Most speed density L98's can trap between 96 and 98mph.

A few freak ones can trap faster, closer to 100mph. 3.8TransAm's 91 GTA 350 pulled a 14.4 @ 98mph out of its *** with a 2.6 60' time spinning through 1st. A MAF L98 is likely to go slower though. Why? I dunno exactly. But there are some freaky fast ones out there too.

Regardless, your turbo setup is doing quite well! If I had a V6 car I'd definitely be looking at one! 3.4L + Turbo kit = some nice power there.

 

96 MPH?!?! Good *** man!! Friend's mildly modified 87 GN was trapping 94 at about 3000 feet... CRIPES! And we all know he was pushing more than 7 psi. Wow.. seriously.. just.. wow...

And yeah, that converts to about 14.2... 221 RWHP at 3200 lbs .... and the weight guess is probably lower than the car would tip out on the scales, so the HP estimates only go up from there..
That would be TechSmurf's Christmas List... well... a tiny part of it anyway. The other parts would include, oh, say Dean's entire suspension setup... and a 3.4 or bowtie block... and...
Oh, I fully expect we'll be breaking our stuff left and right. I'm currently almost glad I only have 13pph injectors.. severely limiting my potential to make things go boom... that, and the fact that I'm not running the car much again until the 749 is in.

 

I still want one Screw election day, NOV 6 is DYNO day!!! I was checking out this guys GST today, nice little 16G turbo sounded awesome when the BOV sounded....I jus gotsta get one!

 

Tell that fool doward to put some slicks and a zexel torsen in it and to lay off that pipe I saw him smoking in one of those pictures (Love that pic doward, classic!)

 

tsk tsk tsk
16.4.... you made it into civic grounds or .... *hangs head in shame* my realm





but can't say much your cutting a worse 60 then I do putting about 6mph faster then me I know EASILY a lot faster then me if we went from a roll


not bad for a ghetto setup. no offence meant by that either but last I heard which was some time ago you more or less threw some parts together with a little work and said lets go....
so man you get my respect









NOW WORK ON TRACTION!!!!!

 

ah this is gonna be sweet, i'm just wondering what kinda engine life this thing is gonna have? i want a kit but i don't wanna blow my motor

 

ROFL, no offense to anyone, but I think you got me confused with TechSmurf's setup - his was a toss-it-together-and-go! project.

This has been much more involved - 91rwhp difference based on the MPH. 91 freaking rear wheel horsepower man!! Are you guys understanding this?! A stock V6, with a 75 shot of nitrous, and I'VE STILL GOT MORE POWER!!!

That's absolutely awesome, on only 7psi. Remember, I was running 10, before the external wastegate.

Going to be going over the datalogs tonight after school. I'm still happy as can be with it!

Yes. The car is flat out FAST from a roll. Next up will be -

Building a real rear end (3.42 28spline HD Zexel Torsen)
LCAs - probably Spohn's
Relocation brackets - again Spohn here.

 

I still think you should set up a paypal weeding gift/donation fund for 2 drag radials. I am sure everyone would toss ya $2 just to get some good numbers.

 

It wouldn't be tech related, so Techsmurf wouldn't let me post it

 

Just to let you know, my LT1/T56 trapped 97 missing second gear with a bad opti.

But you are doing awesome man, almost makes me wish i kept the v6 in my car.....Almost

 

9d1burd ain't lying. He made his tranny go BOOM But he still managed 15.3 @ 97mph.

 

that is way more insane than i thought it would be. i wanna see what my 3.4 will do w/ that setup...... and a few other things here and there

im gonna need the posi as well. ive started looking at possibilities since its down till april or so. paint, trans rebuild w/ upgraded clutch, and possibly posi.

great times so far doward, keep it up man!!!!!!

 

Absolutely... going to be doing some more on her tonight.

 

Was definitely a night of mixed emotions... but id say it was worth it.. thanx to all for the support, and sticking thru it with us... even tho we are still far from done.. we've even turned a few of you into believers after the whole I <3 PVC incident.. and to those of you who dont care about this, or just wanna rag... just dont post.. pointless to bash 2 (many more constituants) people's work over a process of 2 years, to do something nobody else had done.. we couldve gone for the easy pop but guess we just dont like being trendy read:v8. anyway, on to the track.. snapped a few pics, and even tho the times werent the best, we're rebuilding and axles with the Zexel, and then we'll swap it in with suspension so it will finally run like a turbo should.
heres a few pics to tide you over. sorry for the blurry.. oh, i have a small silent quicktime movie i took with the camera... does it have to be hosted somewhere? pipe damage

 

first run.. tsi

 

Post it in your sig man. Anything can be in your sig.

 

Can post it in the theoretical and street racing boards. It would still be thirdgen related .

 

OK, posted in Sig... happy?

I still can't get over the track MPH... man, I can't wait to get on a dyno!!

 

Not entirely true... we're only marginally more leniant about sigs than posts/threads.

 

But one of my signatures is always okay. :lala:

I wonder how much power a built 3.4L could make with your turbo setup and tuning Doward?

 

A built 3.4 would require a larger turbo, but figuring the same % increase in HP output -

3.4 stock = 160hp
3.4 built = 200hp (?)

I got approx 75% increase in power, 7psi, from stock. Now, if you had an honesd-to-*** 200rwhp, + 75% = 350rwhp.

On 7 psi. Realistically, I'd expect more power - the built 3.4 would (obviously) have a higher VE.

 

any current pictures under the hood? congrats man, I will look into your setup for my 3.1 as well!

 

I've still got to figure out what to do with the '90-'92 cars - I don't have one locally to try the kit on! I might end up just going with a 12:1 FMU for the 3.1 guys