So we went to the dyno....
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Car: 1988 Chevy Camaro Hardtop
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So we went to the dyno....
Not gonna make this suspensful -
222.4 rwhp
291.2 rwtq
approx 15% drivetrain loss
255hp/334tq @ the flywheel.
7 psi.
222.4 rwhp
291.2 rwtq
approx 15% drivetrain loss
255hp/334tq @ the flywheel.
7 psi.
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Bitchin!!!!!! :hail: Glad to hear that Doward. I think it could be more though, probably that 16g holding you back a bit (what are the boost temps?). Rockon though dude!
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Car: 1988 Chevy Camaro Hardtop
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Considering 135/160 stock, yeah I"m happy... or considering I have a 3.1, 140/180 stock.
From 140 to 255 fwhp? I promised 100hp, didn't I??!

And the kit includes a bigger turbo - more power. I will be dynoin' the very first kit to go out - the GP should start next week, if I hear back from my mandrel bender
From 140 to 255 fwhp? I promised 100hp, didn't I??!

And the kit includes a bigger turbo - more power. I will be dynoin' the very first kit to go out - the GP should start next week, if I hear back from my mandrel bender
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Car: 86 Berlinetta 84 MonteCL
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Originally posted by Doward
Considering 135/160 stock, yeah I"m happy... or considering I have a 3.1, 140/180 stock.
From 140 to 255 fwhp? I promised 100hp, didn't I??!

And the kit includes a bigger turbo - more power. I will be dynoin' the very first kit to go out - the GP should start next week, if I hear back from my mandrel bender
Considering 135/160 stock, yeah I"m happy... or considering I have a 3.1, 140/180 stock.
From 140 to 255 fwhp? I promised 100hp, didn't I??!

And the kit includes a bigger turbo - more power. I will be dynoin' the very first kit to go out - the GP should start next week, if I hear back from my mandrel bender
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T04e 60 trim... Will have an option for a T61, as well.
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those are good numbers, I'm glad research get's u 100hp!
Now do you have a MAF or SD setup? I noticed in your post in my thread you mentioned a new MAF with the kit? What will you provide for SD people? You also mention chip but will it be compatable with SD cars as well?
These are just questions im tossing out of my head
Now do you have a MAF or SD setup? I noticed in your post in my thread you mentioned a new MAF with the kit? What will you provide for SD people? You also mention chip but will it be compatable with SD cars as well?
These are just questions im tossing out of my head
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MAF - 2.8 86-89
SD - 3.1 90-92
The electronics won't be ready for the SD system until I finish my own swap, and get the tune down
SD - 3.1 90-92
The electronics won't be ready for the SD system until I finish my own swap, and get the tune down
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Originally posted by Doward
MAF - 2.8 86-89
SD - 3.1 90-92
The electronics won't be ready for the SD system until I finish my own swap, and get the tune down
MAF - 2.8 86-89
SD - 3.1 90-92
The electronics won't be ready for the SD system until I finish my own swap, and get the tune down
Time to get the TGP prom and work with the 2 bar MAP, I bet that will help immensly.
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now those are some beautiful numbers....and to think thats a fairly stock engine setup you have there, im definitly impressed. unfortunatly i wont be able to go in on the first GP, when you are ready to play with a 3.4 that has some upgrades let me know ill come down there for ya.
all i can say is wow......thats a lot of power on a 3.1 v8 owners beware, thats only 7psi
all i can say is wow......thats a lot of power on a 3.1 v8 owners beware, thats only 7psi
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that's awesome! i'm glad to see the numbers! i never doubted it (could be because i know you...) but, that should take care of those who did doubt it.
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i'm very excited about these kits, its finally gonna make the rest of the thirdgen community respect the v6 camaro, especially when we are out walking cars at the track
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Stock V6 T5 WC - Holding up great! It's the clutch that's getting the workout
Even with all this torque - Did I mention 287 lbs/ft @ 3000 rpm?
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What kind of mods have you done besides the turbo? Those are some impressive numbers, and it'd be pretty cool to hear that your car is running close to stock specs and making that much power with just the turbo. Even more opportunities for improved performance.
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basically all he has other than the turbo is a really, really mild cam. i think that's it. doward, correct me if i'm wrong.
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I realize you have more tuning to do, but have you tried to figure any mpg readings with it?
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Yep, very mild cam (basically, a stock 3.4L cam), Stock heads (new valvesprings, not even a valve job!), stock exhaust manifolds, and stock dirty intake. LOL
Yes, more tuning to do.... MPG is still 20+, even with me boosting around town.
Yes, more tuning to do.... MPG is still 20+, even with me boosting around town.
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Originally posted by Doward
Yep, very mild cam (basically, a stock 3.4L cam), Stock heads (new valvesprings, not even a valve job!), stock exhaust manifolds, and stock dirty intake. LOL
Yes, more tuning to do.... MPG is still 20+, even with me boosting around town.
Yep, very mild cam (basically, a stock 3.4L cam), Stock heads (new valvesprings, not even a valve job!), stock exhaust manifolds, and stock dirty intake. LOL
Yes, more tuning to do.... MPG is still 20+, even with me boosting around town.
Out of curiosity. I know you'll be selling this kit as a whole or will you sell partcial kits? like say just the plumbing and the chip?
It's worth a shot lol.
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If I am not mistaken, that pretty much identical to the factory #'s the TTA is getting on a 3.8 90*V6?
If I am not mistaken, that pretty much identical to the factory #'s the TTA is getting on a 3.8 90*V6?
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well hell cram some air down the crappy freaking intake and im sure it will respond well
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Not with more boost, no - but I will be trying a little more timing, and get the fuel curve down pat.
Any more psi from this turbo is just hot air - and not worth it. I'll do more power by continueing to tune this combo
Any more psi from this turbo is just hot air - and not worth it. I'll do more power by continueing to tune this combo
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Oh yeah - the partial kits ARE a *possibility*. MAYBE. It'll be after the GP though!
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Originally posted by Doward
Not with more boost, no - but I will be trying a little more timing, and get the fuel curve down pat.
Any more psi from this turbo is just hot air - and not worth it. I'll do more power by continueing to tune this combo
Not with more boost, no - but I will be trying a little more timing, and get the fuel curve down pat.
Any more psi from this turbo is just hot air - and not worth it. I'll do more power by continueing to tune this combo
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I did that because it was all I had.
WAS a 14b, I got the 16g wheel + housing for $50 LOL
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Right, right, right. Now I remember the turbo chronicles and the stingy budget that you and Tech managed to build your turbos on. So hopefully when your first customer(s) get the kit with the larger turbo installed, we'll get some dyno numbers from larger boost pressures.
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I FULLY expect OVER 230+ rwhp with the bigger turbos, simply because it's more efficient - the more boost will be even MORE power, though
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Neither can I man.... neither can I... Hoping that helps spool a little better - and between headers + intake -- OMG TOP END PULL.
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now to be the resident A-hole... since junkie brought up the chronicles, if you all read back... who dare mock the PVC now! lol
i love you guys... cept for kyle, whom i will be killing.. but all i have is this nerf bat so it's gonna take a while.
seriously tho, you blokes ain't too bad for some bow-ties... (and no, im not a ford guy, im a Mustang guy. so, ill be the first to admit, Dizzle has finally taken down the my precious stang in numbers. Im only 210.8 HP and 272.4 TQ at the wheels... AND im 3800 lbs with the vert. add that and the area under a curve and me thinks he's got me.. with traction that is. I helped build the turbo, that counts as part my car right
D knows it tho... soon to come, 331 ways to spank a turbomaro, and THEN add a big thumper hairdryer on top.. 900 HP never looked so beautimous... lol
Thanx again to all who supported us you guyz rock!
i love you guys... cept for kyle, whom i will be killing.. but all i have is this nerf bat so it's gonna take a while. seriously tho, you blokes ain't too bad for some bow-ties... (and no, im not a ford guy, im a Mustang guy. so, ill be the first to admit, Dizzle has finally taken down the my precious stang in numbers. Im only 210.8 HP and 272.4 TQ at the wheels... AND im 3800 lbs with the vert. add that and the area under a curve and me thinks he's got me.. with traction that is. I helped build the turbo, that counts as part my car right
D knows it tho... soon to come, 331 ways to spank a turbomaro, and THEN add a big thumper hairdryer on top.. 900 HP never looked so beautimous... lol
Thanx again to all who supported us you guyz rock!
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Originally posted by vortex
soon to come, 331 ways to spank a turbomaro, and THEN add a big thumper hairdryer on top..
soon to come, 331 ways to spank a turbomaro, and THEN add a big thumper hairdryer on top..
I'm thinking about doing the same to my Cougar!
:hail: turbo 331.
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Yeah, but V, don't forget - Laura's getting a 331 in the '74 Maverick.... Keep it up, and she'll have a T88 in there to take you down
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yeah, and on a personal note, laura cant drive stick
luvs ya!
and always goes back to the old addage.. 74 green maverick, or 95 mustang GT vert cherry red with white leather same power , who's the ladies gonna flock to?
luvs ya!
and always goes back to the old addage.. 74 green maverick, or 95 mustang GT vert cherry red with white leather same power , who's the ladies gonna flock to?
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Originally posted by vortex
yeah, and on a personal note, laura cant drive stick
luvs ya!
and always goes back to the old addage.. 74 green maverick, or 95 mustang GT vert cherry red with white leather same power , who's the ladies gonna flock to?
yeah, and on a personal note, laura cant drive stick
luvs ya!
and always goes back to the old addage.. 74 green maverick, or 95 mustang GT vert cherry red with white leather same power , who's the ladies gonna flock to?
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Originally posted by vortex
yeah, and on a personal note, laura cant drive stick
luvs ya!
and always goes back to the old addage.. 74 green maverick, or 95 mustang GT vert cherry red with white leather same power , who's the ladies gonna flock to?
yeah, and on a personal note, laura cant drive stick
luvs ya!
and always goes back to the old addage.. 74 green maverick, or 95 mustang GT vert cherry red with white leather same power , who's the ladies gonna flock to?
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Hell, I can attest - you don't need to swap 3.1 to a 3.4 to do that!!
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yeah...but i figure those .3 more liters will respond to boost just as well...and why not start with a higher horse and torque...all it means is more fun



