Any available for the 3.1? Or do they only come with the headers?

What performance/sound differences?

 

Why no have one custom made at your local muffler shop?

 

Are there any sensors in it? Have much to have it bent and installed apx? Performance gains?

 

All is located there is an oxy sensor. No biggie to install if ya doing work there.
Gains could be very strong torque
I mean look at what is now there.
Headers is cheaper, tho.
NOT COST BUT
IF ya gonna put out effort, have some real gains!
www.pacesetterexhaust.com
or directly to the man who made this street legal pipe a reality
fgerle@pacesetterexhaust.com

 

the manifolds are where some real restrictions come in. the y-pipe is too, but just get all the problems out of the way w/ the pacesetter set. itll probably end up being the same price as having a custom y-pipe made. i picked mine up for $218 delivered from summit. not listed in the catalog so you gotta call em. i dont recall the part number, but it is posted somewhere on here by me and dale. look in the sticky at the top or do a search for it.

 

How much apx to have headers installed?

 

i did em myself, took about 3 hrs, i think it took dale around that, maybe less. theyre not hard to do, just gotta manuever them in right to fit passed the engine and bay. id guess a shop will charge 2-3 hrs labor at an average $60-$70/hr rate.

 

Ask a muffler shop but figure 3 hours at about $50/hr.
Plus in all honesty ya can do this job yourself.
Everything prior to CC does unbolt in one assembly. Just rebuild & stick back up! No welding is really necssary!

 

Summitracing.com part numbers for Pace Setter headers:

PSM-70-1206 - $208.39 - Painted
PSM-72C1206 - $293.99 - Ceramic coated

 

Those say for the 2.8

 

They will fit the 3.1L and 3.4L engines in a third generation Camaro or Firebird without problems. However, they are only smog legal for '85-'89 fuel injected 2.8L V6's that do not have AIR. There are no provisions on the headers for the AIR system used on the 2.8L, or the AIR system used on the 3.1L (they were two different setups).

 

**** , I need to be smog legal.I guess headers are out then...

 

Mr. Gerle is working on correcting that problem.
Give him a shout of encouragment to make that happen.
fgerle@pacesetterexhaust.com

 

Will do.

 

Hell they right around the corner from ya
WHY NOT VISIT IN PERSON!
They by the racetrack.
OPPS SORRY unless ya in Phoenix area of AZ.
But serious Mr. Gerle is working on getting this version created, too. Serious give him a shout and tell him I sent ya. He has some prototypes already made and seeking a car for fitment now. Volunteer!