what i am saying is that i got the distributor that came on the car, and inside, is the springs and the counterweights. at the bottom of the distributor is the harness and all that good stuff for the electronic advance. don't believe me, go and find a 87 camaro 2.8 and pull the cap, look at the distributor after you remove the button. tell me what you see. you are gonna see the vacume advance springs and counterweights
so yi guess you are wrong on that one, i think that i am gonna have to get a digi cam finally and go and take some pics to prove all you wrong.

 

You bought some jerryrigged piece of work for a car. An '87 ditributor is computer controlled with an internal pickup coil and module- they do not have mechanical vacuum advance springs.

It is my strong opinion you just let this post die and go away so you donot further embarass yourself here.

 

i agree on both parts, but noone will let the thing alone, they just keep going on and on. i know my car is a piece of junk right now, but it runs great. that is one of the reasons that i am building a new motor for it. i have found so many things that are truely strange. oh well the engine is coming along slowly. i am not trying to embarrass myself here dean, i have not worked with chevy's much before, fords yea, dodges yea, but chevies, this is new to me. i know what the car has on it for a distributor, and i aint pulling anyone's leg on it, it wouldn't do me any good if i were trying to. heck i aint got anything to gain from pulling anyone's leg, but everyone seems to think i am.

i am gonna pm one of the moderators, and ask them to lock this thread as ther is no reason to keep it open anymore.

 

Maybe because you keep opening your mouth after ever post?
Since you didn't take my advice and shut it, its time to embarass you. Some kids need to learn the hard way.

Now if (as you state above) your car RUNS GREAT but everything else is a piece of junk about it- WHY ON G()D GREEN EARTH WOULD YOU BEBUILDING A MOTOR FOR IT? You're a broke as kid that just signed into the military with a father that has a '70 Mustang that MAY be a decent car(but its not yours) and you are claimingyou have a car back home that runs 8-9 sec 1/4's-Yet you get so dam excited if your POS Camaro is running 9sec 1/8's.

Kid, You'd be lucky to get into the low 11's in the 1/8 yet a 9FLAT! You do know 9 flat means 9.0 correct? Thats getting damn near a 90mph 1/8- we don't do that in the 1/4. Yet you have hadly any modifications, a POS drivetrain thats slipping and a car that is abused from original factory condition and you are the *miracle kid in the miracle 2.8*

I can't break the 10.00 second barier in my Camaro and have you seen what is done to it?

I could go on and on with this post- I am not going to type a novel. However lastly-
Why do you keep bringing my name into your discussions? I am not the fast guy around here- I refer to a quote of yours up top of this post
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"dean, i have always delt with posi cars on the track so i didn't know that about the limited slip cars."
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Got another news flash for you Mr. car expert, A posi and a limited slip are the same exact thing.

You are annoying around here.

 

okay dean, first off, don't think that i don't got any freggin money, cause you sadly mistaken, car is broke down with a blown clutch, second of all, i bought the mustang from my dad, not given to me, bought. third of all, you really think that a posi and limited slip are the same thing, maybe i was wrong about you cause you seemed to know a little about cars. boy was i ever wrong. posi is both wheels spin at same time. limited slip is one wheel peels, this is broken down to a kindergarten level that you can understand.
engine in the camaro runs great, the rest of the car is what i have problems with. now just cause you can't break into the 10's doesn't mean that i haven't been. i got the slips at home to proove it.
don't believe me, pm me your address and i will send you one of the slips that i ran with the camaro. heck if i can even rember what i ran against, i will put that right on the slip.

oh yea just for the sake of it, here are the numbers from my slowest run that night:
1.1220 reaction(talking on the phone to girl and wasn't paying attention)
2.4458 60ft
6.9831 330ft
10.1221 Et@ 594ft
10.8288 1/8th Et
63.67 1/8 Mph
c'mon do the math if you don't believe me. the numbers are legit. they are literally the slowest numbers i turned in that night.
still think i full of b.s.
by the way i was short shifting into every gear on that run and i mean shifting at 4500 and not 6,000 like i usually do on the track.
you know anyone can put stickers on a vette and give it a decent stance!

i already emailed techsmurf and asked him to lock and delete this thread, so
oh yea one last thing,
yea i got excited about the camaro breaking low 10's almost 9's that is a heck of a achievement with a 2.8L engine. when we broke into the 8's with the mustang for the first time, i almost broke the steering wheel and window and door handle when i got out of the car. why cause it was a achievement that i knew was hard to beat!
you asked me to stay off your threads, now i am telling you, stay off mine, i don't need or want any of your pathetic wanna be wrench head think you know something but don't knowledge period. if all you gonna do is try to bash me, maybe you need to go and just ban yourself again for what the 10th time?

 

Sorry kid, you show your ignorance again, a posi and "limited slip" are the same thing, a car pulling a one wheel wonder would be an "open differential", limited slip means that the thing will let a limited amount of differentiating between the wheels happen when going around a corner, as opposed to a spool, mini spool etc which will completely lock the wheels together no matter what happens.

 

posi and limited slip are the same thing. posi is just the name GM uses for a limited slip differential, posi-traction. sorry man, do your homework and learn your automotive terms.

 

I just wanted to quote and save this mental giant comment to laugh at in the future before it gets changed or erased.

 

Did you happen to look over at the guy ever to see him giggling at you with uncontrolled laughter as he nailed it past the 330 mark and creamed you? He was playing with your dumb *** and you are too stupid to realize it.

I know dreams are always kind off blurry and when you wake up you generally can remember the fuzzy ending.

Have a nice day and don't drink so much coffee next time.

 

So much argueing... :sighs:

Limited Slip = Posi = Saf-T-Trak = Trak-Lok = Whatever-the-heck-the-company-wants-to-call-it.

One wheel = open differential.

 

posi is what the 72 dodge power waggons had on them. limited slip slowly engages the wheel that isn't spinning. ever try and break loose a posi compared to a limited slip? that seems kinda funny concidering that the only ****ing cars that don't do one wheel peels are the ones that have a posi unit in them, the "limited slip" cars are the ones that look retarded doing a one wheel peel. and i hate to tell you all this but ford and dodge use the same term, so no it is not just a chevy term.
no actually he was at about 3/4 throttle to keep from spinning on my last run. the part is that you all read what you want and take what you want from it. i TOLD YOU THAT WAS THE SLOWEST RUN OF THE NIGHT THAT I MADE BY ALMOST A FULL HALF SECOND!!!!!

by the way dad had verry little done with the mustang when i bought it from him. i did the rest of the work to the car.

 

My limited slip differential dont feel like my posi at all

might just be the vastly different cars the two were on though

 

dude, seriously. listen to us, posi and limited slip are the same thing. go ask anyone who works at a shop/dealership. especially a GM dealership. they will tell you that a posi and a limited slip are the same and posi is the term GM came up with. its like kleenex, its a brand, but lots of people generalize the name.

go ask in the trans and drivetrain board, theyll tell you the same thing.

 

posi and limited slip are the same. one wheel peel is called an open differential. for the almost into the 9s thing...i see that 10.12 ET @ 594 ft...a. i've never even seen that one before. b. that's 66 ft. before the finish line! the finish line for the 1/8th mile is 660ft. that 10.82 is very believable!

 

One had worn clutch cones most likely or someone did not put in some limited slip additive into the posi so the clutcthes would have proper friction.

This 87blueracer kid has a major superiority complex and just has to be right all the time- even when the facts are presented. I wish the mods could ban this kid, nothing he says around here is productive and he is bluntly annoying.

 

There are different classes of 'positraction' - limited slip, and 'lockers'. All a limited slip will do, is allow one wheel to turn slower than the other, for turning. A Detroit locker, or a mini spool, LOCKS the wheels in place, and they always turn at the same speed.

 

ok now call me wrong but on the times he put up he claimed that his rt was what 1.12 and the he did the 60ft in 2.4? but would that mean his REAL was 1.3? And I never know you could be on the phone on the line......

 

no. your reaction time will not change any other times. the et clock (and 60' timer, ...) don't start until you move off the line.

 

oh ok. I thought time started when you got green

 

i thought i saw something that had the perfect rt at .5 on the Tree. In regards to ET it has no affect as this is the Elapsed time it takes from line to line. but in a race it will kill u if the other guy gets the hole shot and ur tryin to play catch-up. over a second and ur either hi or the bikinis r walkin by and all ur blood is in the wrong head.

 

it depends on the tree setup, on a pro tree, .4 something is a perfect reaction. as i said i was on the phone(headset) with my girl. i didn't wanna be and i wasn't paying attention to what i was doing, i know that alan, as i said that was the slowest run i made all night. everything else was 10.6, 10.4's and one 10.2( finally didn't spin like a biotch.

now as far as what you are talking about with gear oil and additives, that might be dean. but tell me, the rear in the camaro is supposed to be limited slip, but yet unless i back up at the burnout pit, both tires won't spin. if i back a lil bit, and the go into my burnout, it will spin both.
if a limited slip is supposed to act as you all say it acts, wouldn't both tires spin while i am in the burnout pit? as my car is supposed to have a limited slip according to codes on the rear axle (yes the axle was replaced before i got the car!

 

if you have tags on the rear end saying that you have limited slip...you must have posi. it might be a unit that is well on its way out, though. that could be why it doesn't always want to spin both. i figured you knew that about the times/distances...just making sure since the 594 was a 10.1X.

edit: some tracks will show a perfect rt of .500 where some will show a .000 on a sportsman tree. the .500 is the most common. a perfect pro tree is a .400.

 

yea that is what was on the slip alan, i typed it as i was looking at the slip, and then checked it like 10 times before i hit the send button. that is correct unless the computer at the track was jacked up on that run, but i doubt that. it was running fine at that time of the night, it wasn't until later when they changed it to a pro tree that they started having problems.

yea it may be going out, it is getting some good play in there.
who knows how many miles it has on it! i dunno, but i know it is way more than the car has on it.

 

obviously if it has play it might be broke. lol. my cutlass is the same way. that has a limited slip. i can spin one wheel cause the clutches are bad.

 

getting newer better POSI locker and lower (numerically higher) 3.73 gears on payday anyway, so it don't matter. besides i doubt i will have the new centerforce clutch in there by payday anyway. maybe in like 3 weeks i will have it done!. i don't have the time right now to work on it!!!!

 

So say it for us now "I admit i was wrong and didnt know squat about the difference between a posi and limited slip or lack thereof"

 

face it the kid will never admit when he is wrong, or ignorant, he's gonna argue like an a$$ no matter what. Oh, and he's always buying a part each message.

 

Yep, and only this time is going to be a "Posi-Locker" what the hell is that, would you please explain that one?

 

I say we cut him a break. Nobody knows everything about everything... the trick, is admitting that to yourself

 

this is true, but this goddam kid will not let it go, they are the EXACT SAME THING.

and please stop bragging about your 350 horse n/a motor you are "building", grow up this **** doesn't impress anyone

 

if i had a fork right now, i'd stick it in my eye. It would be less painful than rereading this.