Do i need a specail socket or something to get this damn thing off, none of mine will fit onto it, well they will fit but not go down all the way as the sides of them are to thick...I have searched this forum and it doesn't really give any help on how to get it out, or what the easiest way is. Can someone help me please?


1989 Firebird 2.8

 

Can you get a wrench on it? I used a deepwell socket on mine, don't remember the size. 3/4 maybe.

 

This is so funny to read!!!!!
First
is this operation really necessary?
Second
I have removed mine by removing the engine.
In the end, I'll tell ya the secret....
Go from below, on a lift, using a box end wrench of about 15mm 17mm in size.
Or even wiser, go buy the new sensor first & the proper wrench second.
DO NOT break the wire connection.
Most of all, have fun.
Oh I can imagine your sounds of joy doing this.

 

I got it out, wasn't so bad, But my fan will still not turn on when the car heats up. Guess now I am gonna have to figure out if the wires are bad. Any suggestions?

 

Relay relay reeelay..... cha cha cha cha chaaa cha.

 

where is the relay at? all i have is this stupid hayes manual and it didn't even tell me where the switch was lol

 

i read on the forums that the fan should turn on with the ac but my doesn't do it then either so I guess its that relay

 

It's on the firewall. Driver's side. Look at the brake booster. Then look about 6" right of that and a little up.

 

put new one on, still nothing, will not kick on air, will not kick on when temp gets up high ( I am letting it get alot hotter then what it used to. Both wires read neg when car is running any other ideas?

 

fan motor does work, it was on a toggle switch I am just tired of the toggle lol

 

heh, well as long as you got the right one replaced.. Check the wiring.. You replaced the fan switch already? Because if the fan motor works, the relay is new, and so is the fan switch, it has to be the wiring.

 

Yep, replace fan switch earlier, then did the relay like 10 min ago (got it at advanced auto parts) and it still not work, I will check the wiring and see if anything is going on...Alot of wire to check though

 

Do you have an air dam? [no is wrong answer.]

Does your AC work? [yes is the wrong answer.]


I only mention that because you really don't need a fan to run and suck up your juice [If you got a nice stereo system that needs every AMP you got.] with the right answers above.

My fan is on a toggle switch that never gets used. Unless I sit still for 3-5 min in the drive thru or traffic. Even then Its not getting hot. I just turn it on to keep the temp stable. I could sit still for 15-20 mins till I would hit "red"


Car runs a constant 185-190

 

I went through all the same stuff as you.
Switches, relays, got the V8 fan motor, spent $$$$$$
Ended up buying a $40 adjustable flexlite fan switch.
And then it wasn't reliable. It would stick sometimes and run my battery down. Or not kick on and make me start to boil.



Then I started doing cooling mods and found I didn't even need a fan. And my stereo system loves it. No more headlight dim in rhythm with the bass beat.

 

Air damn no
Air Cond. does work and works just fine

Could care less about my stereo as my alt/batt have more then enough to handle

With the heat/traffic here in florida there is no way possible to not have the fan going. with the traffic we have here it takes alomst 30 min to drive 8-10 miles.

 

i have a 180 themostat and with this heat it never stays near that.

 

currently checking the wiring, the black with red line is good, bout to test the other ones but have to pull in garage first as a hell of a storm is about to hit

 

green wire with white stripe test good, black wire (near intake) test as being always neg. can anyone tell me where the red wire and the white on go to so i can test them?

 

According to my wiring diagram, the white one goes to teh fuse panel and the red one goes to an always hot fusible link. I'd check that. If it bends real easy and stretches and crap, replace it.

 

the ones under the dash right?

 

does the fan have a fuse under there? none of them say "fan or anything like that? Are either of the metal ones for it?

sorry for so many questions, first time that i have gone and done alot of work like this lol

 

Fan fuse is on the top row second from the left, 20 amp.

 

i found where it says ch/fan but it isn't the red or white(tanish) it has a dark brown wire on one side and nothing hooked to the other even though there is a 20amp fuse

 

ok the dark brown is the same as the white (tanish) one, but still can't find where the red goes

 

red wire goes to a fusible link on a junction block near the battery.

 

but it is ok that there is only one wire hooked to the fuse inside the car? doesn't seem like its a complete circut with only one wire on it, i mean what would be the point of the fuse if nothin passes through it?

 

i don't have a junction box under my hood, i have searched before...Is it under something or just in a wierd spot?

 

Does the red wire have 12 volts on it all the time? If not, there is your problem.

 

That is how a fuse block is.
Power is feed to the block from two wires, one hot all the time and one hot when the key is on.
The side of the fuse with no wire is the side that is plugged into the fuse block, the other side of the fuse has the wire that goes to whatever circuit uses that fuse.

 

using my test light i hooked it up to the neg and then touched the red wire and it didn't light up so i guess it has no power to it which sucks, I think i will just splice a wire from the battery to it instead of trying to dig up where the break in the wire is? or do you think i should dig it up?

 

Dont do a hacked wiring job. Believe me.

 

I would find out where it is open at. Most likely the fusible link. but I would make sure. If it was somewhere else and still has power on the battery side it could be very bad.

there should be a bunch of wires right near the battery. look again.

 

there are a bunch of wires that are right behind the battery (inbetween the batt. and bumper) but all of those go out to the front end and no connect to the battery

 

Here is what you are looking for. This is my Camaro but a Firebird should be almost the same.
You can see the positive battery terminal in the lower left corner.

 

i did find some fuse links and stuff on the other side (pass) i am going to check them

 

oh hell yeah that thing was fried! lol thanks guys

 

can i bypass that or should i buy a new one? if i go to buy a new one what would i tell the parts person i need?

 

i have a splitter where i can put whatever buse fuse i want in there? could i bypass it buy using that and putting like a 20amp in there?

 

there must be something different bout my 89, the battery is on the driver side and that link was on the pass. side lol

 

Yup. But it might be better to just get the link. Go into a parts store and tell them what it's for and they should be able to help you out. As for it being on the other side, weird. FI birds had the battery on the drive side, obviously, but my carbed t/a has it's on the psgr side. So.. Meh. At least you found it.

 

Make sure the red wire isn't shorted to ground before you hook it up. There is a reason that link melted. hopefully someone just shorted the connector when they had it off.

You can't use a regular fuse, it will blow faster than a fusible link. A regular fuse will blow from the fan motor startup current draw. A fusible link works by melting from heat from too much continuous current flow, like from a short to ground.

Advance has fusible links hanging out on the pegs with the other fuses.

 

thanks guys i got it working all nice and smooth. I am using the bus fuse link for now and then wed i will put the right on in there. Thanks again though for all your help