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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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Wierd ball

Does anyone know what this thing is, its right over my battery from the driver side, also, where does its hose connect to??? (the picture might be hard to see, but hopefully someone would know what ball IM talking about) Here are two pictures, the first one is hard to tell, but i'll point it out, the second is the loose hose from the wierd ball.
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:48 PM
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Heres the second picture
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:48 PM
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thats the orb of power

or more commonly known as the vacuum canister (it stores vacuum at idle and such so you can use your brakes and **** at low rpm's)
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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Do u know where I can reconnect it? Because I found it lose
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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there should be vacuum lines going to it, if not look around for them
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:52 PM
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in the second picture, dats what I found, I have no idea where it goes.
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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look on the back of your intake manifold is there a vacuum line going back there?
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:59 PM
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I cannot tell, where is the back of my intake manifold located in my 3.1L?

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look on the back of your intake manifold is there a vacuum line going back there?
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 11:00 PM
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i mean the intake plenum, but when you open your hood and look at your motor the thing that the air intake goes into, at the back of there should be a t fitting. check for that
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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Ill take a picture because at the back, i see something dat is not covered... ill take a pic in a few moments, thanks
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 11:08 PM
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no problem. lets see that pic and i can help ya out a bit more
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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This is the best my camera phone can do.
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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is that an electrical connection attached to it?

to my knowledge theres not a vacuum connection on the back of the manifold, its hte plenum
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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I took more shots of my 3.1L, nevermind, the digital camera took my pix too high, in order words, files are too big to upload here

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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 03:43 AM
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In the picture there is a spot were the hose from the power booster goes to and then another vacuume line goes on the other side. It connects to that but you need a part its not a T fitting it has some function to it but i dont know the name just what it looks like. Thats were the Vac fitting will go to. You just need the missing part.
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by FAST RS
In the picture there is a spot were the hose from the power booster goes to and then another vacuume line goes on the other side. It connects to that but you need a part its not a T fitting it has some function to it but i dont know the name just what it looks like. Thats were the Vac fitting will go to. You just need the missing part.
It is a check valve, should be near the wiper motor, connects the vacuum hose from the plenum to the hose to the orb (and cruise if you have it), and there is a tee connection on it that connects to the hose that goes to your heater a/c controls. Mine looks kinda white, but I think it is just because of how old it is.
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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My vacuum line should be located by the master cylinder?
I will retake a picture again and see if i can find anything

Originally posted by FAST RS
In the picture there is a spot were the hose from the power booster goes to and then another vacuume line goes on the other side. It connects to that but you need a part its not a T fitting it has some function to it but i dont know the name just what it looks like. Thats were the Vac fitting will go to. You just need the missing part.
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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in this pictures, what is dat thing called, where i am pointing at it
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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That is the Schreader valve on the fuel rail. That is where you would attach a fuel pressure gauge to check your fuel pressure.

That small hose on the tee on the back of the plenum (your arrow crosses it) is where the hose to the check valve should go, and then from the check valve to the orb.

Looks like there is a hard plastic line on the tee in your photo? Where does that go? Also where does that other hose to the right of your arrow go? (you've got a 3.1, my 2.8 doesn't have that second hose all by itself in the back of the plenum)


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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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i dont think mines has dat part, I can take a picture of dat area and u can be the judge of dat
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 01:47 AM
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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when I replaced my battery tray, I broke this and have never installed it back.

I can still use all my vac options just fine.
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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I still dont have a clue where dat vacuum hose goes in my 3.1L
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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it goes to the check valve as shown in the picture.
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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THE ORB OF POWER!!!!!!! :hail:
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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I triple checked that area in the picture and I do not see the check valve... I'll take a better picture of it when I get a chance, my camera phone is a piece of crap when it comes to taking digital pictures...
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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Someone may have taken it off at one point in your cars life. Just go to the GM dealer they run like 5 dollars.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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Ill take a picture again and see if i can get an idea where it should be
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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since you are doing this anyway you might as well replace those lines. napa sells "windshield washer hose" that is the same as vaccume line stuff.

here is a photo i made (real board today)
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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try that phot one more time

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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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My vaccums line are really different, from the orb, it connects to this thing.

And notice, u'll see a T connector, I figured out dat they just put an extra vaccum hose. So, do I really need a check valve in my case. Since my org connects to dat thingy.
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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Heres dat same picture, but with some info.
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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The "thingy" is your cruise control servo.
Look at Xophertony's drawing (nice job) and you'll see how the hoses and tees etc. should run.
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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ON dat T, the orb should connect to the cruise control... I just capped the top part of the T.
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 03:56 AM
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thanks, i spent like ten minutes on it.

i capped my tee for a long time. eventualy replaced the line and used one ong hose w/o the need for a tee. permantly finishing my cc delete.
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