RedRaif... I need some tips from you on the under car wing mount.


I got a free [out of the trash] TA wrap around wing that the side pieces went floppy and cracked up as the metal inside them rusted away. The main wing section is still very nice and solid.

I had it laying upside down on the bench and darned if it didn't look like the bottom spolier on a Viper. Help up in the dark it looked pretty **** upside down under the nose and looked as if it would be functional as well. Fit and finsish of the lines was right on.

Just wonder how in the heck you got those mounted solid.

I know you got a cardomain but that site isn't dialup friendly.

I just wonder how you mounted the wing under the front nose?
Is it just bolted to the plastic or? Maybe you could just point me to the right few pics, info or post em here?

 

I just don't see how I can get at any of the metal under the nose without removing it and then I won't be able to line it up with the body work.

Here are some quick shots.


http://viragotech.com/fs.html

 

gumby i never really got under my roomate's bumper, but did you think about putting it on with a metal backing plate behind the plastic? i think that is how shannon did hers!

 

I guess I need a long drill bit and a sense of adventure.
Being all rubber I should be able to just drill through the whole thing.

 

Still hope you got some tips for me Red?

There is metal up there but it would take bolts 8inches long and some sort of a spacer I guess. The wings sits flush up against the plastic body side air dam covers and the metal is 5inches away.

 

Sorry was having computer issues today...

Well first off...
*on the rear...
I used the factory studs on the spoiler and ran them thru the GFX on the rear most studs. (bumper cover if you have no GFX or the standard TA bumpers) I used metal plates to disperse the weight on the back side of the GFX. The front most studs I used a metal strap to attach to the stud and then ran the strap up to one of the bumper studs under the body.
*on the front...
I was able to mount the spoiler the the larger 84 GFX underside. I ran the stsded thru the bumper cover with metal plates, again to disperse the weight. I then added 2 more screws to the center to add further holding power. At the time the front spoiler was ruined I ahd no issues with it tearing the gfx, but I think it was not adjusted right yet to really be funtional for any "Downforce effect", but it did help direct air to the airdam. Car ran a touch cooler with it on then w/o. When I had the CAI under the nose it did help direct air to it as well!

***Now please note....the spoilers I used were Fiberglass. Much lighter then the wrap around. You are not going to be able to get the wrap around to mount by simply attaching it to the bumper cover. It will pull and rip the urathane cover.

My rear spoiler is actually tearing the gfx due to the fact that it is mildly funtional and is actually being pulled downward when I drive! I had to add a piece on the inside to help stablize the system. When I redo things I plan to lengthen the spoilers stud and attach them to the metal bumper!

So you are going to have to find a way to either add a strap, add get a longer stud, or add more mounting points to keep this heavy piece from ripping the heck out of your bumper cover! You really need the weight supported by metal. Weigh that thing and see for yourself what it weighes. Then think about the fact that you are asking a thin piece of urethane to hold it up!

This is not going to be a simple task! W/o the same spoiler and a car w/o gfx I can't mock it up to give you advise. I had one of those spoilers at the house about a month ago, but it was so messed up we tossed it! Otherwise I could have tried some ideas.

My only concern looks wise is that the front bumper is angled and the spoiler is not. That is why I cut 2 spoilers and butted them together, but this made the sides angled wrong. Again why we left it off! I plan to reuse the idea somehow, just not sure quite how yet...

 

Yep, any solid metal is so far away and sort of hidden.
And the wing is not light so it needs a solid mont.
I dunno, it does look neat on the jack.

 

For a spoiler that heavy you would likely have to build a framework inside the bumper cover, out of tubular steel or something, to spread the weight over the whole front of the car. If you really like the looks, but are concerned about weight, you might be able to purchase a damaged fiberglass spoiler from one of the vendors for a reasonable price. The tubular support would be a good idea either way.