Mass Airflow Sensor
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Mass Airflow Sensor
Hi I have a 1989 2.8L v6 and i made a custom air intake for it. I had to take off the Mass Airflow Sensor in order to do this and now when I start the car I have a check engine light. I was wordering if having this sensor off would mess up anything, like create a big problem? thanx
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Originally Posted by north_oakland
Hi I have a 1989 2.8L v6 and i made a custom air intake for it. I had to take off the Mass Airflow Sensor in order to do this and now when I start the car I have a check engine light. I was wordering if having this sensor off would mess up anything, like create a big problem? thanx

It's the main sensor in metering how much air enters the engine so you get the proper A/F ratio. Rip out the junk intake you made for it because you won't notice any difference anyway unless you have some mods that actaully require more air to enter the engine and put the Air Flow meter back in.
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Agreed! With the sensor gone, the computer is using a default value for airflow so the car can run. And that default value is just enough to drive on (its called "limp home" mode) so you can go somewhere to have the car fixed.
Basically while you may have improved air flow, you hurt the performance big time... try reworking your intake so it includes the MAF.
Hey wait, do you have a Camaro or Firebird? If you have a Camaro, you have the dual snorkel intake- and that's already the "best" intake you can get. (Firebirds don't have that because the Firebird hood slopes too low over the radiator support.)
Basically while you may have improved air flow, you hurt the performance big time... try reworking your intake so it includes the MAF.
Hey wait, do you have a Camaro or Firebird? If you have a Camaro, you have the dual snorkel intake- and that's already the "best" intake you can get. (Firebirds don't have that because the Firebird hood slopes too low over the radiator support.)
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LOL, that's a bit extreme....
Pics?
Did you actually make a new intake manifold system, or are you just talking about a Cold Air Intake?
If it's a whole manifold, then I'd say convert over the speed density (MAP)
Otherwise, you really want to get that MAF back into the air flow
Pics?
Did you actually make a new intake manifold system, or are you just talking about a Cold Air Intake?
If it's a whole manifold, then I'd say convert over the speed density (MAP)
Otherwise, you really want to get that MAF back into the air flow
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Originally Posted by Doward
LOL, that's a bit extreme....
Pics?
Did you actually make a new intake manifold system, or are you just talking about a Cold Air Intake?
If it's a whole manifold, then I'd say convert over the speed density (MAP)
Otherwise, you really want to get that MAF back into the air flow
Pics?
Did you actually make a new intake manifold system, or are you just talking about a Cold Air Intake?
If it's a whole manifold, then I'd say convert over the speed density (MAP)
Otherwise, you really want to get that MAF back into the air flow

But six-shooter....yeah I agree...lol trying to fabricate a cold air intake when you don't know what an MAF is. Kinda like trying to rebuild a transmission without knowing what the valvebody is.
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Originally Posted by Stealthy-One
valve Body??? 

yeah, valve body? wtf is that... I've never seen a valve body in any T5 I own
Nixon, yeah, MAF will tune itself better than MAP, but when you are able to adjust things, MAP is really the way to go!
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Originally Posted by Doward
yeah, valve body? wtf is that... I've never seen a valve body in any T5 I own
Nixon, yeah, MAF will tune itself better than MAP, but when you are able to adjust things, MAP is really the way to go!
Nixon, yeah, MAF will tune itself better than MAP, but when you are able to adjust things, MAP is really the way to go!
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Originally Posted by Leo_padakin
there in automatics only as far as ive ever seen, when friends of mine have there autos built they have the valve bodies recalibrated. what it does is beyond me??????? never owned an auto
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LOL, Leo, I was joking... There are no valve bodies in a stick shift transmission. Nixon's right on what they do, though - they control the flow of hydraulic fluid in the transmission, so that it'll shift and all.
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Originally Posted by Nixon1
Haha......well they were joking with me, that I own an auto.... The valvebody is what controls the transmission basically. Controls all the shift behaviors...shift timing, firmness, the action itself....its full of valves, springs, check *****, etc. Im not gonna go deeper into hydraulic trannies, vacuum modulators, kickdown cable vs tv cable, etc
Originally Posted by Doward
LOL, Leo, I was joking... There are no valve bodies in a stick shift transmission. Nixon's right on what they do, though - they control the flow of hydraulic fluid in the transmission, so that it'll shift and all.
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