One of my friends has a mustang not sure of the year but I know its at least 1987-1993 with the 4 banger in it. He was talking about racing me but said I would win, I have a 1987 Camaro with 2.8 auto. I thought it would be a pretty fun race. Do you think I would of won or him or would it just mainly come down to who's the better driver?

Also how can I get my car to peel out? Not a burnout just a peel, I don't want it to smoke the tire or anything just spin for about 5 seconds and then off I go. So how would I be able to do it? There has to be some way to do it b/c I saw my friend peel out in his stang and it only has about 88 hp. He backed out of the parking spot then peeled when he went forward, should I try the same thing?

 

i think you should definately be able to beat him...and is his a manual or auto?....it helps if you have a ballsy car to do what you wanna do..not sayin mine is!..but i guess...yeah..try what he did..or when you are takin a right at a corner hammer it around the corner..i know it could definately do it cuz i got a friend thats got a 2.8 fbird that could prolly do just as good as burn out as i could! lol good luck to ya

 

If your car can't do a peelout...you either have good traction, or your not putting down the power you should. And don't do the backing up and then putting it into drive and stepping on the gas, good way to mess something up in the tranny. I can do it all day in my car and you should too, but at the track, my car hooks up without peelout because of the asphault. From a stop, just like you do normal driving, let off the brake pedal, push the gas, only push 3/4 the way or all the way down. You shouldn't even have to push it all the way down for it to peelout. My car is stock, and has brand new 245/50/16s performance tires.

 

weight distribution also plays a big part, thats why alot of drag race cars dont spin alot.

 

its fun unless you're racing!!...one wheeler peelers SUCK!

 

5 seconds is a long time...even for my car lol...wish i could do it!

 

Well I didn't mean exactly five seconds but a few seconds. I have 255/15's on the rear I guess I just wasn't giving it enough gas. I'm not sure if his is an auto or standard I'll have to ask him. Thanks for the help.

 

well the tire is one of the problems cause it is taller then stock so it drops your ratio some.....less take off better top speed, is it 255/60 or 255/70? i mean both will fit...my car had no jump with 275/60 or 255/70 now with 245/60 it'll spin up into 2nd.

get an alum driveshaft, and a few other upgrades and it'll do it. good.

when I got my car and it had 195/75/14's it wouldn't spin either. and remember 205/75/14 is not an upgrade it's a dumb grade....lol I was hittin everything in the front......then I went to tech school and am a 6 year tech now so me be a lil smarter now.

 

They are 255/60/15s It might 65 but I'm pretty sure its 60. I don't really have any mods right now guess I should get a few.

 

Hold your break and slightly and floor it. my 85 2.8 would one wheel peel doing that.

 

If he has a fox body with a 2.3 Turbo, he will own you. Those engines came stock with forged internals, and by installing a gillis valve, he can crank up his boost to 20 psi. 225+Hp and 300 ft/lbs of torque in a small chassis is only a twist away. But since he's stock normally aspirated, you could run with 4 people in your car, and a load of groceries, running on 5 cylinders and own him...

 

lets hope it isnt the SVO...RACE HIM!!

 

SVO are not the ones to look out for. It's the ones with the turbocoupe drivetrain swapped in. Combined with the 8.8 rear with Ford's track-loc (posi) diff, they are stealth...

 

SVO turbo coupes are sick

 

I have 245/60R15's on the back of mine, with a modded 305, and they won't spin at all for me. You just have alot of tire on the pavement. If you still had the 215/60R15's on there, you would have a better chance of spinning them.

 

somethings wrong then. my cars like 1000lbs more then yours and my v6 spins w/2.73 gears. i mean in the rain when I punch I hit 3rd before it grabs.

I mean a higher gear and posi would help you stick I mean is the car stock?

I went down from 275/60/15's so I could spin when I wanted

 

In the rain, my car will spin to no end. I cannot get traction at all in the rain, even if I feather foot it. You can get traction in 3rd in the rain, I can't. I just sit and spin..

Alot of it depends on how that little 6 banger is running though to. My friend had a Camaro with a 2.8 in it, and in first gear it would spin the **** out of the tires, but that was all it had, it was slower than crap.

 

If you're getting anything more then a chirp with a stock or mild bolt on automatic V6 thirdgen then you've either got a) worn out suspension b) worn out or cheap 70,000 mile tires, or c) a vivid imagination.

The thirdgen suspension was designed with more power in mind then the V6 provides in stock form. Hence, a V6 isn't going to have more power then the suspension can handle. Having owned 10+ thirdgens, I can tell you with certainty that even a bolt on equipped L98 car won't spin for 5+ seconds if it's not worn out, the posi works, and it has good performance tires. Nitrous + L98 will give you that kind of wheel spin, but mostly it's just annoying anyway since if you're spinning you're not accellerating.

After putting a 125hp shot of nitrous on my 3.1L auto firebird, with the stock suspension, 3.23 open rear end, and GTA wheels with worn out (cords showing) 245/50VR16 Firehawk GTX tires, it still wouldn't spin the tires for more then about a second on a hard launch.

So if you want to spin the tires, drop the shifter to OD while the car is still rolling backwards while turning 2,000+ RPM. Of course this will murder a 700R4 after about the 5th or 6th neutral drop.

On to the Mustang question... The SVO was available from 84-86. There were also other 2.3 turbo Mustangs but they were earlier cars. You would have to be pretty ignorant to pick a fight with an SVO. They stand out pretty obvious with the double decker spoiler, ram air hood, specific headlights, 5-bolt wheels, and specific 1/4 glass trim. The turbo whine and associated exhaust note are pretty hard to miss too. That said, if the car in question were an SVO, you'd know it.

That leaves us with a 2.3L with about 88hp. They run the 1/4 mile in apprx 22 seconds. Any 2.8 on it's worst day should cover the same ground in less then 20 seconds.

The reason the Mustang burns out easily, is because the suspension is archaic in design. Additionally 4cyl Mustangs don't have quad shocks or traction bars, as where V8 Mustangs had one or the other from the late 70's to present. Also the Mustang is lighter and probably has better gears, along with a weight distribution that doesn't lend itself to traction.

And finally, SVO Turbo Coupes are indeed sick, since they don't exist. The SVO designation applies to the Mustang, as where the Turbo Coupe designation applies to the Thunderbird. It's like saying an Monte Carlo GTA is bad ***! Also don't forget the Cougar XR7 was offered as a 2.3L EFI turbo as well.

 

Yep the Turbocoupe is a Thunderbird produced from 1983 to 1988. Suspension for the Mustang can be easily remedied by installing good aftermarket lower control arms or using a torque arm/panhard arm combination. I have a fox body Mustang that I installed the rear end w/rear discs and engine from a 87 turbocoupe. Direct bolt in. I mated a C4 transmission, and run the maximum motorsports LCA's with Steeda UCA's and panhard arm with subframe connectors. It handles the twisties quite nicely. Weight distribution is very good as the engine sits behind the rack closer to the firewall. As to turbo whine, if someone is running a holset or a t3/t4 hybrid, you'll hear it, but the stock IHI or T3 is not that noticeable. One thing you will notice is the insane kick when full boost comes on at 2800 rpm though.. It can be a handful if driving on a wet surface if you are too liberal with the gas....

That's why I use the tank...

 

Well I'm pretty sure it is not an SVO. It doesn't have a spoiler or ram air but it does have the headlights and front end but I read that they started using that front end on all mustangs in 1987. He also said it was a four cylinder but didn't say if it was turbo or not.

I think I got my car to peel out. I did the lightly press on brake and give it the gas. I could definitly feel it wasn't grabbing but it wasn't very loud at all. I mean I could hear it but if I had my music on then I probably wouldn't have. Usually if I do a hard launch it doesn't peel out.

 

It's most likely a stock 4cyl mustang lx. You will have no problem. Period It's just better to have traction and hook right off the line, than to lay patches. Be a little more agressive on the gas and you will get there...