I've been readin and am unsure.I have a 90 camaro with a 3.1.Was wonderin what if any front wheel drive v-6 will bolt up to my tranny and what all is involved.
Sorry but i just not sure.Have done this back in the day but it was all carb and used a 500 from a caddy.Droped a setup from an Eldo into a SWB chev pu.Made it a mid engine death trap.(Long story)
What i'm lookin ta do obviously is get more power and better gas milage as is everyone.Know nothin about 6cyls and nothin about fule injection.Am a fast learner gettin slo in old age.So would rather do a swap of engine ,While eng is out possiably wire harness if needed and then prolly plug and play with the brain box.But if theres an easier swap then plz elaborate.NotREALY wantin ta do the v-8 thing unless maybe go with an old 283-350 with carb and then brain dead the car.Realy rather bolt up and run with a 6 setup if poss.
Just tryin ta gather the info for potential parts round up thru winter and do the work in the spring/summer.

 

no front driver is going to be a direct drop in. the FWD 60 degree V6 engines, have the starter on the wrong side from what I've read.

The 3800 series 2 could work, but for the work it would take to make it work you could just have put the 8 in there.

the easiest swap would be a 3.4 there is a tech article called the "3.4 swap boogie" you might look into that. I'd just stick with what you got, swap cams, add headers, new lifters, and throw a small turbo on it, you'll hit 200HP easy, and should still have decent fule economy. (i'm swaping my old 2.8 to a 3.1 my self.)

 

saw sumthing in 1 the threds about a buick that might bolt up.Am patient will wait and see not in a big hurry just courious.If I'm lookin at enuff work or rebuildin mine i'll just go with the 283-350 brain dead upgrade.

 

It'd be faster, cheaper, and easier to sell the car and buy a V8 to begin with. There isn't any direct bolt in that will really be able to compete with a stock TPI V8.

 

well won't get into power compititions here.But i have the 3.1 multiport v-6 right now and it's on it's last legs.And at 200.00 for a stock 350 or 305 and 200 for the 350 auto pluss the sweat .I'll loose out on fuel ecconomy and top end without swapin rear ends it isn't that hard to do.Done it in other rides just kinda toyin with the thoughts of keepin the 6 cyl for a change of pace.As for the TPI....The stock 283 in my 64 malibu has smkoed many a TA short of the vette package.And thats with the stock 2 barrel and 2 speed.But then again I'm not afraid ta blow the engine just means a weekend to swap in another.
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but back to the inital ????Theres NO direct bolt or minor modd v-6 to drop in??

 

the cost and work required to convert to the buick V6 is almost not worth the hassle. finding a good enough engine, and then the right engine mounts, computer, wireing, ect.. but those engines can make some sick hp. (it was the same they used in the GNX only the heads were from a FWD lesabre)

you'll need to change your fule pump to work with the carbed intake of the V8, and a few other things.

a 3.4L V6 would be the most direct bolt in. you could then add a turbo.

 

3.4 is a thought i'll have to look around.But then still have brain box issues won't i?Aww either way it's all info gathering at this time in prep for potentially gatherin parts.Still have the brain dead 283 and 403 in the back yard with matched trannies to fall back on.

 

you'll just need to reuse the 3.1 intake on the 3.4 block (I think the only difference was the some sensors, other than that it was basicly the same intake IIRC.)

 

same settins for the brain or would 1 have to reprog the ic?

 

Nope, that 3.1 short block is basically a bolt-in deal if you got some brains. If you click on the V6 forum, there is a lot of info ata the beginning. Use the search function as well. Honestly, if you have two small blocks lying around, why not use one (especially if you have the tranny)?
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BTW, how've you been bill?
How did your speaker install go (you should close your thread by telling us what happened)?

 

Because the 283 is from my 64 malibu never been rebuilt with all original parts and still runnin like a champ.(neat what ya find in the hills of TN in the barns)So it's for desperation.And the 403 has a manual non hyd clutch.(have ta find at least a 305 turbo)and is built so a gas guzzeler to say the least.But will prolly change my tune by summer time when the racin bug gets back on my back.Maxxin the rev limiter from clarksville to nashville on a harley at 110 gets old after ya burn a few ignition modules out.LOLSo was considerin thoughts of cheap fast v-6 route.

 

Depends on how good a mechanic you are (as far as the fast 6banger).
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BTW what does it say on the back of t-shirt in your avitar?

 

turbos are beyond me but have rebuilt many an 8 and tranny b4.Shirt says
"Honk if ya have never seen a gun fired from a moving Harley."
B suprized how few honks I get.

 

you would be better to keep the v-6 if you are going th-350 auto trans cause there are alot of thing you have to get to put one in a thrid gen. or you have to change alot.

 

A 350??On a 283???NEVER!!!2 Speed powerglide only amd iron at that.Weighs more but stronger by far.Also sittin on an old Vega stall.An original from back in the day.But theres a reason sittin on all that.Had the whole combo in an old 70 nova that originaly had a 6 cyl so geared lighter than a 8 cyl.The thing screamed in town but ate too much gass on inter state and actually topped out totaly at about 110.Gas costs too much and not sure can figure out a decent concersion from the 90's electric speedo to the cable setup of a 2 speed or 350 for that matter.Prolly just stick with what i got and tune it up .After all the cars a daily driver 60+ miles 1 way ta work.

 

even with a glide you would have to get brackets for the tourqe arm ,build a drivshaft,tranny crossmember , or change the rear to 4-link or ladder bar setup to get rid of the tourqe arm set up. i would never try to talk antone into keeping a v-6 but cost wise if wanted a v-8 just as cheap to buy car with one. back to the v-6 i would swap in a 3.4 or rebuild the 3.1 you got.

 

If your looking for something realativly (SP?) easy and cheap. Do a 3.4 swap. Its not hard at all. I paid $450 for a complete engine w/ 60k on it at a local J/Y. Invested about $600 total. My 1st engine swap was a 2.8-3.4. It took me 2 days to complete it. And if you have a 700R4 I would suggest a rebuild on it. Most ppl that do the swap burn the trans up. the 2.8, 3.1, and 3.4 are the same engine just different bore and stroke. Good luck.
Search "3.4 Swap Boogie" Its baisically a walkthrough of what you need and what steps to take.

 

ok thanx ya all have a merry merry happy happy ...Bill