Thought you guys would like to see this
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Re: Thought you guys would like to see this
alright let me know
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Re: Thought you guys would like to see this
mine isnt striped down yet and loner himself posted int his thread the car is shy of 3,000 pounds
my car goes over the scales at just over 3400 as it sits
ur god forsaken heads suck flat out now u stfu
acording to u guys those heads flow sooooo much better that thing should be making 75-100 hp more then me fwd or not that much extra power that thing should still be a good .750 faster then me
my car goes over the scales at just over 3400 as it sits
ur god forsaken heads suck flat out now u stfu
acording to u guys those heads flow sooooo much better that thing should be making 75-100 hp more then me fwd or not that much extra power that thing should still be a good .750 faster then me
Put on a dyno, I'm sure it is making more power, I'm talking engine dynos, not chassis dynos, since they are two different drivelines, and the tranny Loner is using just plain EATS power, the 4T40/45Es take more power and weigh more than the 700R4.
Tranfering weight off the drive wheels, is always going to slow down the vehicle, FWD or RWD, in this case FWD, there's also the issue of wheel alignment when it comes to drive wheels and in FWD this is always changing depending on inclination of the chassis (wheel droop), steering angle (how far the wheel is turned, figured I'd have to explain that to you like everything else), chassis roll (how far the chassis is leaning to onw side or another, yes this DOES happen with FWD).
Gearing is not matched well, and I know his tune is perfect, it's pretty fat the last time I heard.
Numbers don't lie, the genIII heads out flow the genI heads by quite a bit more. There is no denying that. The issue is getting everything matched, and I haven't seen anyone truely match the genIII set-up yet.
You just have to look at what some of the Fiero guys have done, the most they can get seems to be about 220 HP out of the iron heads N/A, WL has over 300 HP out of his 3500 N/A, and you're still going to sit there and tell me with a straight face that the iron head is better?
You're a bigger idiot than I gave you credit for.
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Re: Thought you guys would like to see this
hmm and u dont think that my converter that was stalled to 4500 from 3k and actually goes to dam near 6k isnt losing a hole **** ton of power?
or the fact im still running a 4:10 rear gear
turning the wheels huh the cars going in a striaght line unless hes got some massive spin comming out of the hole hes gonna be pointed stright.
and he aint massivly spinning with a 2.0 60
gearing please the gearing in the 700 is a joke for a turbo car specially that low *** first gear im not even 40 ft off the line and im already shifting into second
that thing should be so much faster with all the advantages it has over the iron head motor and my setup and its not period end of story.
i dont give a flying **** that its fwd his 60 1/8 and 1/4 time all match he aint spinning hes not loosing traction the mph and et is dead on for what it ran so is the 1/8 time
or the fact im still running a 4:10 rear gear
turning the wheels huh the cars going in a striaght line unless hes got some massive spin comming out of the hole hes gonna be pointed stright.
and he aint massivly spinning with a 2.0 60
gearing please the gearing in the 700 is a joke for a turbo car specially that low *** first gear im not even 40 ft off the line and im already shifting into second
that thing should be so much faster with all the advantages it has over the iron head motor and my setup and its not period end of story.
i dont give a flying **** that its fwd his 60 1/8 and 1/4 time all match he aint spinning hes not loosing traction the mph and et is dead on for what it ran so is the 1/8 time
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Re: Thought you guys would like to see this
I'm done with you, anybody that has been around drag racing knows there's steering involved, especially in a FWD vehicle. On top of that experianced racers know that a FWD car making the same power as a RWD car WILL be slower, with a disparity of anywhere between 1 to 2 seconds different.
Like F_F said, put that engine in a RWD, then it will show what it's capable of.
Like F_F said, put that engine in a RWD, then it will show what it's capable of.
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Re: Thought you guys would like to see this
ive raced my share of fwd cars i know all about it
pfft same power 1-2 seconds slower try again only a few tenths 2-3
and hes already made up for that with the wieght diff
pfft same power 1-2 seconds slower try again only a few tenths 2-3
and hes already made up for that with the wieght diff
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