Hi guys, great site. I need some help. I am swapping a 2.8/700r4 from an 88 camaro into a 91 vw fox. (long story, soon to be fast car)
I would like to know where I can get (or who makes) an intake manifold so I can put a holley 4 barrel onto this 88 2.8 motor. I want to ditch the fuel injection and make this a very simple clean, muscle-car-style installation.
Also- do you guys know if anyone makes block-hugger-style headers for this motor as that will probably be the best header fit for this application.

Thanks guys

Rick

 

ur only bet for the intake is going to be an edelbrock unit.
u can order it with a 2 barrel or 4bll top plate

not sur eon the headers u will prolly have to build ur own

 

WHY in the world would you want to take the engine out of a beautiful car like a Camaro and put it in something like a VW Fox, an old econo box???? Especially a 2.8 not a powerfull engine by any means. In a 2.8 camaro, looks are the only thing you got going for you, take those away and you aren't left with much.

Anyway, pacesetter headers are the only one's made for these engines that I know of. And here's a couple of intakes:
Edelbrock Performer Intake Manifolds: EDL-3787 - summitracing.com
Edelbrock Performer Intake Manifolds: EDL-3785 - summitracing.com

 

edelbrock makes carb intakes for it.
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...ormer-v6.shtml

the 2 last ones on the list.

 

Thats what Im looking for, thanks for the help guys.

K Slice - I recommend not racing any VW foxes for cash. One of them might be me.

Thanks again.

 

k-slive actually that thing would be pretty fast the car he is putting it in is only 2k pounds about.

dam near half the wieght of the f body

 

Now you got it project89- I wanted to stick with an all VW (VR6) drivetrain but to put a gm drivetrain in would be about half the cost and about 1/3rd the headache.

If I can squeeze 180 horsepower out of this v6 It should easily put my fox into the low 13s high 12s with nice quiet streetability.

Thanks again for the help. I might be hitting you guys up for more infor in the future.

 

seriously? a vw with a 2.8. thats awesome. any picks? a cardomain page or something like it to share?

 

No sorry guys- no pics yet. Im actualy still driving the stock fox as a daily beater. as soon asI get the motor and stuff ready to go, I will start shooting photos. I will keep you posted.

If you are interested in seeing my inspiration for doing this- check out some drag corollas from mexico- way cool.

http://dragueo.tv/home/gallery/displ...bum=57&pos=260

 

I can see how that would be inspiring.

 

Ok, then I'll just get out my winter Escort and beat you. You're dropping in a V6 that makes about 100 horse, modern V6's make 200+, and my 2.0L Escort makes 140 stock.
I just dont see the point in building an econobox from the 80's. I could see if you were putting a 350 in it or something, but with the 2.8 you'll still have a car that'll lose to modern day Civics and Altimas, and not look good doing it.

 

what about a 3.8 or 4.3 V6 block ?

 

a 4.3 would have to mount the same as a v8, so if you were to put in a 4.3 you might as well go for the v8, for all its worth

 

he can always take the 2.8 and turbo it like some of htese forums :P

 

turbo cost alot, so i guess its all about what your willing to pay for, allbeit if he dd turbo it, it would be one fast *** little vw,

i went through this whole v6 thing with my old 88 camaro with a 2.8, i wanted to mount a 4.3 v6 to the original mounts, but as i said it mounts the same as the v8,

 

doesn't need a turbo to get power. there are plenty of things you can do to make power. i wouldn't think he's keeping it stock. porting the heads, headers, cam, ect. he'll get there. we'll see though.

 

just to give u guys an idea of what hes looking at

my car went 13.0 at 9psi wieghing just shy of 3,500 pounds
if i could get my car down to 2k pounds with no other changes that would net me an 11.5 run with no other changes

the lighter the car the less power u need to get that thing moving

200hp in a 2k car would be very fast and tons of fun let alone if he turboed it and was making 300+

im sure u guys remebr when i was trying to hunt down a 1st gen rx-7 for my drivetrain to go in, and that was the exact reason, the car would be alot lighter then the f-body

 

if your car weighed 2k lbs and you had your exact engine you'd have traction issues and that'd be pretty much your limiting factor.

 

possibly it would all come down to suspension setup really.

wieght dosent make a car hook,its the suspension that does that

 

Just so you guys can stop arguing. I got the car free- got the engine and tranni free. Getting a 373 rear end from an s10 for $25 soon. Not sure what I want to do with the motor yet. It runs smooth and has no smoke and no leaks so I think I might go with a turbo or if there is a supercharger application I might go that way.

I originally wanted to do a 4.3 (and still might go that route if I can find one of those cheap). I cannot go v8 because there is not enough space front to back due to the steering setup in the fox being on the firewall. I want to have room for a decent sized radiator for streetability.

I will be using a 4 link rear with koni coil overs (got at a swp meet for $75) and a 26 by 8.5 inch drag radial in the rear. So by the time I get it put together Im hoping to have less than $1500 in this little screamer.

The whole point to this car is a fun sleeper to smoke Z06s and Mustangs on the street. I plan on having very quiet exhaust with a single tailpipe and all. Will post picks when I can. Project89 and chevyracingrox- thanks for the support.

 

S.O.B.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its his car, dang let him do what he wants to it, it sill sure be faster than it was stock

 

Heres a few pics to tease you guys. The red car is my fox as it appears today. Rims are from a GLH Omni. The Orange one is a photoshopped job of how I plan the motor setup to look (sans turbo or supercharger). The last pic of the silver car is a Toyota Corolla that I have been using for inspiration. It sports a 300+ hp 20R motor and I think it runs 11s.

 

Also- just for clarity and for those unfamiliar. Early Corrollas and VW Foxes have longitudinally mounted engines which makes them primo candidates for rear wheel drive racing applications.

 

neat looking cars, i've never seen one in real life. do you know what year the engine is? the 86 and up heads had bigger valves. might be worth getting if you can get them cheap enough.

 

Midget cars weigh slightly less than the VW and fly with a 3.4/3400 hybrid. 14:1 compression, never going over 6500 RPM, and the local guy made 340hp.

 

Ok guys - first thanks for all the help- you have talked me into going with a 4.3 instead of the 2.8. They are a dime a dozen and there is lots of info on the web about guys who slap them in MGs and miatas and all sorts of little cars like mine.

I have heard a few good things about GM Goodwrench performance heads for the 4.3- do any of you guys have any links to good reference projects on building an nice streetable 200+ hp 4.3- or have links to where I can buy the Goodwrench heads cheap?
Thanks again- I will post more pics once I get the ball rolling- probably in the summertime.

 

yea, be sure to keep this project thread up to date and detailed. please

 

Around here we call those things "ricebeaners." About 10 of them show up every friday night to the track... one or two make it off the line... one makes it to the end of the track... the rest blow up in amazing plumes of smoke and flames. I love watching them, and guessing which one will make it to the end. They run mid to low 13's usually, but every once in awhile they'll squeek off a low 10 sec 1/4!