V6 Discussion and questions about the base carbureted or MPFI V6's and the rare SFI Turbo V6.

Broken Timing Gear

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 26, 2010 | 08:08 PM
  #1  
cooltc2004's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,124
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, Ohio
Car: 1992 Firebird
Engine: 3.1L V6
Transmission: 5 Speed Manual
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Peg Leg
Broken Timing Gear

In May 2007, a bolt backed out of my timing chain damper and shattered my timing gear. October 2009, while I was driving, the same thing happened. I ran some simple diagnostics and determined that it wasn't a simple fix, so I had to devote all my time to getting my winter truck on the road. I just recently started tearing it apart, and saw this:

Name:  oldtimingchain.jpg
Views: 28
Size:  76.6 KB

Now I'm unsure on why this one broke, I'm going to see the distance between the crank and the timing cover to make sure the crank isn't walking. I've also heard that the harmonics from pinging can cause damage like this (or worse). Either way I needed to replace my timing set, so I found this:

Name:  newtimingchain1.jpg
Views: 31
Size:  68.5 KB

Name:  newtimingchain2.jpg
Views: 31
Size:  75.9 KB

Cloyes Double Roller Timing Set So this weekend I'm going to install this as well as replace the oil pan and both front and rear suspension.

If anyone has any ideas why this happened, that would be great.

Thanks
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2010 | 06:07 PM
  #2  
cooltc2004's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,124
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, Ohio
Car: 1992 Firebird
Engine: 3.1L V6
Transmission: 5 Speed Manual
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Peg Leg
Re: Broken Timing Gear

I installed the double roller today, and before I button it up I have a question. The timing chain damper does not fit with this style chain, the bottom gear's teeth are too big. The chain itself is pretty tight, especially compared to a stock chain. Do I need the damper? I talked to my dad who has built countless engines (pre FI) and he says the V8's don't use them. Here are some pictures:

Name:  2010-03-27181017.jpg
Views: 26
Size:  84.7 KB

Name:  2010-03-27181003.jpg
Views: 31
Size:  74.4 KB

Please, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 04:58 PM
  #3  
cooltc2004's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,124
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, Ohio
Car: 1992 Firebird
Engine: 3.1L V6
Transmission: 5 Speed Manual
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Peg Leg
Re: Broken Timing Gear

Thanks for all the help guys

If anyone searches this thread and needs an answer, I found the answer here:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/v6/2...ide-plate.html
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
hectre13
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
2
Dec 11, 2023 08:14 AM
TreDeClaw
Theoretical and Street Racing
11
Jun 22, 2021 08:21 PM
Azrael91966669
DIY PROM
25
Jun 20, 2017 04:04 AM
drewdock87
South Central
3
Aug 18, 2015 09:02 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:35 PM.