MY LIVE BUILD THREAD
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Car: 1996 Camaro, 1985 Camaro
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MY LIVE BUILD THREAD
umm heres some pics of progress for right now ill type up more later
homeade cam install tool lol ( long intake bolt works great)

stock cam comming out

timming set

working late last night using a camping lantern for light

the start of the cam teardown

parts yay

remnoving timming cover

start of the day

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homeade cam install tool lol ( long intake bolt works great)

stock cam comming out

timming set

working late last night using a camping lantern for light

the start of the cam teardown

parts yay

remnoving timming cover

start of the day

-- project89
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Car: 1996 Camaro, 1985 Camaro
Engine: 3.8, 3.4
Transmission: WC T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23(?), 3.42
Re: MY LIVE BUILD THREAD
no this motor is tempoaray
he was g oing to get a 3.4 for the heads/cam/headers/ported intake to go on but it fell threw
he does plan on getting a 3.4 in the near future though to drop in he needs the car asap so thats why we just went with the new cam n topend on the 2.8 instead of waiting to find a 3.4 shortblock
btw heres some light body work to remove some rust i messed around with for him while was waiting on parts
well heres what iot looked liek before had already started some work on it

and after some still needs some blocking out and more primer

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btw car should be able to be fired tom 3rdgen lost 2 of the rocker nuts so have to pick some up first thing in the morning
he was g oing to get a 3.4 for the heads/cam/headers/ported intake to go on but it fell threw
he does plan on getting a 3.4 in the near future though to drop in he needs the car asap so thats why we just went with the new cam n topend on the 2.8 instead of waiting to find a 3.4 shortblock
btw heres some light body work to remove some rust i messed around with for him while was waiting on parts
well heres what iot looked liek before had already started some work on it

and after some still needs some blocking out and more primer

-- project89
btw car should be able to be fired tom 3rdgen lost 2 of the rocker nuts so have to pick some up first thing in the morning
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Re: MY LIVE BUILD THREAD
What heads are going on that block? The stock iron ones? I dont think the 3x00 heads would work too well with those flat-tops. The compression would be comparable to a diesel lol
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Car: 1996 Camaro, 1985 Camaro
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Transmission: WC T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23(?), 3.42
Re: MY LIVE BUILD THREAD
yeah a set of my ported iron heads are going on it, i have his 3400 heads that i took in a trade for doing the port work and the install
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As for the 3.4 block I will eventually swap one in when I have more time and money to do it, my DD needs work and is out of inspection atm, so I'm trying to finish the Camaro quick so I don't have to waste more cash on my POS buick century.
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I'll get that CSI sent out Friday when the check has cleared, probably on my way to getting the OTHER ECM out of that '91 in the junkyard. (Don't know why it had 2, one on the harness on the floor and the other on the bracket under the dash, unplugged--didn't know it had the bracket under the dash and thought it had already been removed--may even get a free MEMCAL with it
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BTW, since everything is still pretty much loose on the engine harness, could one of you guys take a measure for me between the part where the oil pressure unit and injector harness side of the harness meets up with the wiring from the throttle body (under the crank pulley) so I can get to fixing the 3.1 harness I bought off of a guy on here? I need the measurement between the injector harness connector and that union. I'm really going to have to give that guy some neg feedback on that one
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).BTW, since everything is still pretty much loose on the engine harness, could one of you guys take a measure for me between the part where the oil pressure unit and injector harness side of the harness meets up with the wiring from the throttle body (under the crank pulley) so I can get to fixing the 3.1 harness I bought off of a guy on here? I need the measurement between the injector harness connector and that union. I'm really going to have to give that guy some neg feedback on that one
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Re: MY LIVE BUILD THREAD
I'll get that CSI sent out Friday when the check has cleared, probably on my way to getting the OTHER ECM out of that '91 in the junkyard. (Don't know why it had 2, one on the harness on the floor and the other on the bracket under the dash, unplugged--didn't know it had the bracket under the dash and thought it had already been removed--may even get a free MEMCAL with it
).
BTW, since everything is still pretty much loose on the engine harness, could one of you guys take a measure for me between the part where the oil pressure unit and injector harness side of the harness meets up with the wiring from the throttle body (under the crank pulley) so I can get to fixing the 3.1 harness I bought off of a guy on here? I need the measurement between the injector harness connector and that union. I'm really going to have to give that guy some neg feedback on that one
.
).BTW, since everything is still pretty much loose on the engine harness, could one of you guys take a measure for me between the part where the oil pressure unit and injector harness side of the harness meets up with the wiring from the throttle body (under the crank pulley) so I can get to fixing the 3.1 harness I bought off of a guy on here? I need the measurement between the injector harness connector and that union. I'm really going to have to give that guy some neg feedback on that one
.videos will be posted soon
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Re: MY LIVE BUILD THREAD
hey man if u need anymore help ggeting it back together just let me know but deffinatly get everything hookedup so u can break that cam in properly. ill get u a list tommorow of the final few tings u need to hookup and see if i cant get u some vacum hose diagrams.
if all else fails and u cant get it ill deff come help ya out again
if all else fails and u cant get it ill deff come help ya out again
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Alright, did you figure out what the deal was with my throttle cable? Or do I still need to figure that out?
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yeah its poped out were it comes threw the firewall if u trace it back from the tb to the furewall u will see it m u just need to pop the plastic piece back into the firewall all the way and then the cable will be right and let the throttle close fully
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LMK if you need a diagram for the vac hoses... I have a hood from an 85 with the sticker on it. It's not exact because it's a Bird hood, but it should point you as to what goes where. It doesn't take long to snap a pic.
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bte those 2 pictures i posted few posts up are videos just click on them to watch them, car sounds pretty good with open headers and the cam from delta
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im oing to set him up with a 3.1L vacum system layout so he can run his other tb ,alot of the factory 2.8 hard plastic lines were broken so it works out pretty well
bte those 2 pictures i posted few posts up are videos just click on them to watch them, car sounds pretty good with open headers and the cam from delta
bte those 2 pictures i posted few posts up are videos just click on them to watch them, car sounds pretty good with open headers and the cam from delta
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almost everything else is the same except the egr is digital on a 3.1 so no vacum line,
id send u a diagram if i had one i just happened to prety much memorize were most of the hoses go
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its pretty much the same setup as the 2.8 except the 3.1 dosent feed the idle air down to the back of the manifold the air is actually introduced behind the tb blade instead. so it has a diff fitting for the hose from the pcv to intake
almost everything else is the same except the egr is digital on a 3.1 so no vacum line,
almost everything else is the same except the egr is digital on a 3.1 so no vacum line,
I was, in particular, wondering just what connects to the rubber block on the TB on a stock 3.1... I'd go to the yard and find out, but the guy there is very **** about taking complete engines that are still "good" apart to find out what goes where (and, like I said, the PO of the harness donor decided to have the emissions and other stickers painted over when the car was repainted black). I can't even trade the upper 3100 plenum I have for one from a pre-96 car with the 3-solenoid EGR, even though most of those engines are junk (and there are a LOT of them in that yard).
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Re: MY LIVE BUILD THREAD
From what you describe that sounds like the CTS, it should have a 3 wire plug if that's what it is. A picture would help..
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