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Old Dec 11, 2000 | 06:55 PM
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In regards to Monkie's cold air intake

Hey bro I went to Home Depot to look for some aluminum piping and couldn't find anything. The closest thing that I found was alminum flex piping which looks pretty cool. Would that work well for a cold air intake? And how much difference is there between those 2? I like your idea, let me and the rest of the guys know. Thanx

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Old Dec 11, 2000 | 08:07 PM
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Yea thats what I used. The 3" aluminum air conditioner tube that you can twist around to make it go in different directions. I got a tube of that, then I got two 2 1/2"-3 1/2" I think hose clamps. So I took all that back home and put one end of the tube facing the filter and used a hose clamp and clamped it to the radiator hose (I think. Well, its that metal hose going to the radiator). Then I bent the aluminum tube to go down right next to the plastic flap thing that you hear scrape when you go out of a steep drive way. At first I took the tube and clamped it to the bar that they use when they tow your car away. But then I figured nah. So I clamped it to something under the car. Im sorry but I have NO idea what it is. If I were you I would get what I got and just go your own way. Im thinking about putting a funnel on the end of the tube maybe later to get even more air going in. But thats all I can tell ya. Wish I could get some pics for ya!
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Old Dec 11, 2000 | 09:32 PM
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Thanx Monkie. I'm still deciding on either to use the ABS plastic from Home Depot or the aluminum flex tube. The flex tube sounds so much nicer b/c it would be easier but I gotta dig into my car when it's not raining to see how I want to do this. Thanx bro.

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Old Dec 12, 2000 | 12:13 AM
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if ur also referring to dryer hose..look at it..when u hit the gas it compresses the tube and chokes performance

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Old Dec 12, 2000 | 04:12 PM
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Graeme, even the aluminum dryer hoses? They're somewhat difficult to crush with a hand; I don't think they'd collapse. I used an "air intake hose" from Pep Boys, it came in a big green box; anyway, it's a very thin rubber hose with a metal ring inside, similar to a coil (or a Slinky! Remember those?)- it makes it crushproof.


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Old Dec 12, 2000 | 05:20 PM
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So what would be the best then? I like Brian K.'s setup w/ the PVC piping that he has. I am contemplating the ABS plastic pieces that I saw at Home Depot, would that work pretty damn good?

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Old Dec 12, 2000 | 05:54 PM
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i used the aluminum stuff and was idling it by hand in the engine bay, reved it the hole tube compressed and killed the motor..thats why i dont have ram air/cold air in my sig anymore..im going to be using the SLP intake instead..

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Old Dec 12, 2000 | 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by Graeme'sFirebird:
i used the aluminum stuff and was idling it by hand in the engine bay, reved it the hole tube compressed and killed the motor..thats why i dont have ram air/cold air in my sig anymore..im going to be using the SLP intake instead..

Are you talking about running the aluminum piping straight to the TB or like I did? If you are talking about the way I did it then there is no way it can kill the engine.

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Old Dec 12, 2000 | 09:49 PM
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nope actually ran it right outta after the MAF with all the stock intake inplace except air box...revved it to approximately 2200 then i saw the aluminum de-coil in front of me and the engine died.... !

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Old Dec 13, 2000 | 02:44 PM
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Wow, thats kinda weird! I wonder what caused that??? Well Ive had mine on for about a week now doing mods on it here and there and it seems to be running 100% fine. Oh and I did put the funnel on last night and it made alot of difference.
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Old Dec 13, 2000 | 04:21 PM
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i cant gaurentee home depot will have it, but am 98% sure lowes will have what you need.. i got some of that 3" aluminum ducting, ask for it.. its used for ac/heat ducting in your house, comes in a sheet and snaps together to form a pipe, that and in plumbing they have theese 3" rubber unions with hoseclamps attached, a employee should be able to know what i mean.. youll have to cut the tube to length and sttach it to the MAF with the union and put your filter on the other end.. i wrapped the pipe up with elecxtrical tape to make it look better and provide a better seal.. if you cant find the tube, use some 3" PVC piping.. you not only dont wanna use anything flexable such as bendable tubing, not only because it flexes too easily, but the ridges in it will cause air turbulance which will make you lose power...
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Old Dec 13, 2000 | 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by scoob8000:
you not only dont wanna use anything flexable such as bendable tubing, not only because it flexes too easily, but the ridges in it will cause air turbulance which will make you lose power...
Ok I get where you are comming from with the ridges and air turbulance. But 1: it you do it right you will not loose power. I know I didnt. But Im sure if you didnt use flexable pipe you would gain more cause it would flow better. So how could I use that to where it comes from the airbox down to under the left side of the car (if you are looking at it from the front)??? Help and ideas would be welcome!!! Thanks!!!



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Old Dec 14, 2000 | 12:18 AM
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take out stock air box...run 3" pvc right from MAF using a sewer adapter. Relocate the charcoal canister about 2" closer to the back of the car. Run the pipe to the fender opening, drop an elbow, run the pipe down and hook up a K&N Conical..thats my plan or the slp intake

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Old Dec 14, 2000 | 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by Graeme'sFirebird:
take out stock air box...
Just a suggestion but do not take off the airbox. You will loose HP. When you do a cold air intake "forced air induction" it blows air at a rather fast rate. So if you take the airbox off the air just keeps going through the filter. You need the box on to catch the air. Just run it through the snorkle thing. ** this is only for 1991-92 Camaros. I think those are the only years with my type intake setup.

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Old Dec 14, 2000 | 03:52 PM
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yours is somewhat different than mine and thats why i can do it...i was even thinking of just relocating the stock air box somewhere else but nah..buy a 4.7ohm resistor and Fastrs's old k&N and im set

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Old Dec 14, 2000 | 06:48 PM
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just like graeme said.. tho run it on the other side for a camaro since the batter is opposite than on the firebirds.. i totally relocated my charcoal canister, shortened lines and mounted it on the strut tower...

4.7 ohm resistor, that for doing away with the temp sensor? i remeber a post where engineboy mentioned the right resistance for a ls1's sensor.. dun remember what it was and what we would need for ours.. but if thats it, i may just try it..
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Old Dec 14, 2000 | 07:48 PM
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Ok I have been wondering this. I have heard from alot of people/places that its a good idea to run the tube into your fender....How is that gonna get ANY airflow??? I looked tonight and I couldnt see where the air would come in from. Give me some clues.
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Old Dec 15, 2000 | 01:00 AM
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From: First one out of liberty city, burn it to the ground
with the airflow for the radiator

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Old Dec 15, 2000 | 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Graeme'sFirebird:
with the airflow for the radiator

Wouldnt that be warm air then???



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Old Dec 15, 2000 | 06:03 PM
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theres plenty of airflow inside that fender, once your past the inner fender cover its wide open.. also if you run it to where the charcoal canister was you could cut a 3" hole or so in that battery tray on that side and run a tube with a elbow in it for even more cool air.. my k&n hovers right where the charcoal canister would be before i moved it..
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Old Dec 15, 2000 | 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by scoob8000:
theres plenty of airflow inside that fender, once your past the inner fender cover its wide open.. also if you run it to where the charcoal canister was you could cut a 3" hole or so in that battery tray on that side and run a tube with a elbow in it for even more cool air.. my k&n hovers right where the charcoal canister would be before i moved it..

Does it matter what year the car is or what model it is???? Thanks!
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