matlock

My coil is about to die in my 87 SC. I was wondering which one I should get? I've heard that mine is referred to as an HEI coil, but on msd's webpage the one that looks like mine is this:


However this is the picture of msd's HEI coil which is internal:



I also am looking at accel 8.8mm wires. If anyone can leave feedback on this I would be very grateful. Thanks.

TechSmurf

If you've got a third gen V6 you want MSD-8226.. the external replacement (the first pic). Internal HEI coils are V8 only.

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'86 Camaro SC, black /w silver racing stripes
MSD coil, Accel 8mm wires, SplitFire plugs, Gabriel hijackers

matlock

Cool thanks. Should I grab a cap and rotor too?

TechSmurf

If you're replacing the coil and wires, you might as well go the full 9 yards and get the cap, rotor, and plugs.. make your entire ignition system new from the ground up.. I don't know of any performance caps/rotors for the V6s, but I haven't really looked.. definitly reccomend Bosch Platinum 4+ plugs though.. kinda expensive but dyamn.

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'86 Camaro SC, black /w silver racing stripes
MSD coil, Accel 8mm wires, SplitFire plugs, Gabriel hijackers

TechSmurf

If you've got the cash to spare and want to make your ignition truly new from the ground up you'll want to replace the ignition module too.. it's about the most critical element as it's what supplies power to the coil. Ignition control boxes like the MSD 6A or 6AL are known to give decent HP/TQ benefits. If you can't go that far, a normal MSD module should be available

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'86 Camaro SC, black /w silver racing stripes
MSD coil, Accel 8mm wires, SplitFire plugs, Gabriel hijackers

matlock

Thanks a lot man. You guys are really helpful on this board. Im on my way to making my 2.8 respectable. Btw, which accel wires did you get? I think I have to chose from this universal list and make my own.

Order # Price...... Description......
(30244) $39.95 Accel Universal 8.8mm Wire Set 4 Cyl. Stainless/Copper 170082
(33951) $19.95 Accel Universal 8.8mm Wire Set 2 Cyl. Stainless/Copper 170083
(60706) $36.95 Accel Universal 8.8MM Wire Set 4 Cyl. Stainless/Copper 170084
(60716) $36.95 Accel Universal 8.8MM Wire Set 4 Cylinder Graphite #173082
(60720) $17.95 Accel Universal 8.8MM Wire Set 2 Cylinder Graphite #173082
(60737) $17.95 Accel Universal 8.8MM Wire Set 2 Cylinder Black #173085K
(60730) $36.95 Accel Universal Wire Set 4 Cylinder Graphite #173084
(60734) $17.95 Accel Universal 8.8mm Wire Set 2 Cylinder Graphite #173085

TechSmurf

I used the plain non-spiral core 8mm universal V8 set.. I should have gotten the spiral cores but due to an emergency and none in stock, c'est la vie. I think you're looking at the 8.8mm graphite core sets

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'86 Camaro SC, black /w silver racing stripes
MSD coil, Accel 8mm wires, SplitFire plugs, Gabriel hijackers

FAST RS

Accell mkes a cap and rotor set they are liek 20 bucks

RenoLB8

People give mixed reviews, but I'm a big fan of Accel, myself. Accel cap and rotor, and DEFINATEly 8.8 wires. the 8mm's are great, until you put a higher voltage through them, then they fall apart. Also, Accel makes a high output coil for our engines, and I believe it's cheaper then MSD's. I'm running the whole 300+ system, and I think it rocks.

As for plugs, I used to work in an auto parts store, and trust me, PLEASE, Bosch +4's do nothing for the way the ignition is setup in our cars. Not trying to flame anyone who says they felt a gain, but you always feel a gain when you change your plugs. ESPECIALLY on an upped-voltage system, you don't want platinum plugs of any type, much less the Bosch's. I personally run Splitfires, and I like them a lot. I don't know if they give me more power then a normal plug, but they take a serious beating more then others.

-Reno

Jason E

I second Reno's positive impression of Accel. I have an Accel cap/rotor/8.8 wires and coil, and have been very happy with the results.

I also agree +4s are no good. Splitfires may be good, I've never used them...I like my AC RapidFires though!

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Jason E
'89 Camaro RS 2.8 (Medium Gray Metallic)
Hypertech chip/K&N filters/Accel 8.8 wires, Accel Supercoil/RapidFires
Eclipse CD and 100x4 amp/Boston plates and 6x9s
Alpine Alarm, Keyless Entry
IROC tailights, tinted windows

JasonEE98 on AOL IM

scoob8000

i like accel products too..

yes the first coil pic (external one) is the right one for your car if its a v6..
secondly def get a new cap and rotor wires, etc.. also get a packet of "dielectric grease" put a small, and i mean small film of it on the inside of all your boots on the wires, not only will it keep them from sticking and breaking when you take em off, it will keep moisture out and prevent corosion.. as far as plugs, i dont care for any bosch plug, or any multi electrode plug (ie splitfires), either go with acdelco rapid fires or some name brand triple platnum plug..

Brian K

I have the MSD direct replacement coil... Love it, I have accel wires and are very happy with them too.... I have the accel ignition box and it is okay... I would rather have gotten MSD, but accel was a gift..

FAST RS

I have the MSD coil wires and MSD 6AL and i like it allo tbut next time im going to get a mallory ignitoin they look cooler and seem to have newer technology MSD uses a old style

scoob8000

fast rs, definatly go with the mallory.. i got the hyfire3 and love it..

91dave

Go with whith what you think will work, but I think you will have more luck with accel

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91 Camaro RS/SS
3.1LTR
Flowmaster Exaust
Hyperchip
K&N Airfilter
Ram Air,Cold Air Induction
Accel Wires,Cap,Rotor,Coil,
Plugs
Low Temp Thermostat
16" 91Z28 Rims, BFGoodrich CompT/A
Pioneer Speakers,Deck
Shift Kit

Monkie

91dave

Please tell me what a 1991 RS/SS camaro is....

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Soon to be a 3.8L turbo RS

AIM screen name - Stopsign696

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT,94 Mustang GT,91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me),2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!,1992 RS 305 TBI (good race),First Gen Integra, Old Escort LX
More to come

TechSmurf

It's something coming from his overactive imagination, Monkie.. no thirdgen ever recieved the rank of SS. I'm sure a few people with heavy aftermarket mods have decided theirs is worthy.. but an rs? with a 3.1? uhm, no.

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'86 Camaro SC, black /w silver racing stripes
2.8l MPFI/700r4
Preparing for 305 LG3/THM-350 swap
MSD coil, Accel 8mm wires, SplitFire plugs, Gabriel hijackers

FAST RS

Come may ill have my 69 camaro and ill trick that out too a 1st gen and 3rd gen and after that a 2nd gen TA oh god it will e sweet