Does Chevy have no ***** at all? I dont get it. That car was bad *** and had a lot of cool things that came with it, but they didn't produce it. Why? Because the bean counters at Chevy said nobody would pay the price. OK, whatever. In 89 The pontiac Boys went ***** out on the TTA and Sold plenty of them a $30,000 plus to the public and moved everyone they produced and could have probably sold more if they had made more.
So why was Chevy scared to do it? I just dont get their resoning.
OK I am done Venting, feel free to share ytour thoughts about Chevys lack of nuts to and please show some examples of what they COuld have done. 'Cause you know they could put the LS6 into the SS's but they Won't

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89 Trans Am Turbo 3.8L All stock 43,000 miles #1053 of 1555

Past Thirdgen:
86 Trans Am w/ built 355TPI with SLP goodies and too much other stuff to List. One sweet *** car, wish I would have had a good enough Job to pay insurance on three cars so I could keep it, but for a 89 Turbo Trans Am w/ Low miles, I think I made the right choice!

 

I think it has to do with the fact that they don't want another car on a Chevy dealer's lot that is faster than the Vette.

 

I would venture to guess mike is right about that. Not sure how you could actually research it - maybe production #'s for that year. I do know frank parra here in the DFW area sells corvettes for 52K. Was down there drooling the other day when i had to pickup my friends girlfriend from work - she works service and parts there. Now why would GM make a 13.5 second car for 30K when they can sell 52K cars that are 13.5 and 35K cars that are 13.8 to 14.4?. same debate goes on why theres no real market for our V6 cars. Why sell performace parts that will get us into the 15's. Altho the imports seem to do it on smaller engines all day long.... Careful when ya blast a Vtec... perhaps there alil more smarter when it comes to aftermarket and keeping speed up and cost low.

 

You make a good point, but a Corvette is still a Corvette and a Camaro is a Camaro. If the camaro was faster than the Corvette the Mistique of the Vette would still remain. People byr Corvettes for the name and looks. We all know that the F-body can be made a lot faster than the Vette if you take the $20,000 difference and invest it into the F-body.
I think Chevy is Ball-les and Stupid now. I mean you know they didn't lose sells on the Vette in 71 when the LS6 454 Chevelle was on the Road. I mean they used to take risk and put some nice limited Production cars out on the Road. Why no more. People will buy them We all know that.

I guess I am still just so pissed they are killing the F-body all together and are going to make SOme other **** nut car that will carry the name latter (i.e. Nova, Impala, etc). No doubt it will be a 4cyl FWD import wanna be to.

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89 Trans Am Turbo 3.8L All stock 43,000 miles #1053 of 1555

Past Thirdgen:
86 Trans Am w/ built 355TPI with SLP goodies and too much other stuff to List. One sweet *** car, wish I would have had a good enough Job to pay insurance on three cars so I could keep it, but for a 89 Turbo Trans Am w/ Low miles, I think I made the right choice!

 

I think GM is stupid, and i mean down right idiotic for not busting out a 1969 mold of the camaro, putting a LS1 engine into it and producing say 5000 of them. A limited production car from the past with todays technoligy. Charge 55K for it, have the president of GM himself number and autograph each one as it leaves production. Bet they could make a killing. But some ******* in production - yeah the one driving a ford down the highway cutting people off as he talks on the cell phone has his head so far up the the boss' A$$ that they'll really never figure it out. Its about todays numbers, todays profits and todays job. Keep the course heading the way its going cuz today was successful. Thats why we do not see the amount of great inventions as we did from 1900 to 1950's. Everyone is to afraid to think outside the box.

Also you have to figure that insurance and liability for the cars they produce. In todays lack luster world of lack of responsibility, over reaction, road rage and lawyers - can you imagine if they started producing mass cars able to go 0 to 60 in 4 seconds and put a reasonable price tag on it? my god, every terror on the street would bring a whole new meaning to eye in the sky "breaking news.... car chase at 2pm killed 4" its the perp and victoms that sue the car maker because johnny and susie got cremed when perp x decided that he needed to run from the police - all to a tail light that was out. Same reason why ladders and lawn mowers cost more... the insurance to cover the lawsuit from the idiot that stood on the top rung or flipped the lawn mower over while it was running to clear wet grass from the underside. Lack of responsibility for ones actions, a down right rude social behavior and over reaction to other wise minor things, contribute to manufactures producing otherwise harmless things. How many of us were flipped off today cuz some woman just HAD to get across apposing traffic before you, and you had the right of way and were 3/4 out anyways? and she had a stop sign yet didn't stop? happen to me not 1 hour ago. She went as far and to flip back around and chew me a new a$$ at the stop light. I went as far as to explain to her that her 2 year old needed to be in a car seat, NOT in her lap and maybe if she didn't get her license in a cracker jack box she might actually see the child growup - I also explained i have her license plate number and am now calling 911 to report a drunk woman on the road with a child not in a child seat. Its that kind of mentality that keeps insurance high, car manufactures at bay and the lawyers rich. If i hit her in her stupid/illegal move and hurt the kid, it would be me sued... all that AND GM is dumb for not following the imports in making it smaller, faster and better then the competition.... /vent off..... god can you imagine the aftermarket parts in profit they could make... In computers its not the computer you make money on... its the paper, printer toner, cables, programs ect ect ect....

 

I am so glad I am not the only fed up with Society

 

Because 1992 was a recession and cars weren't selling. Look at the 1992 production numbers for F-bodies...it was their lowest year. Not just because some people were waiting for the (then) new 4th Gens, but a lot of people were unemployed.

It was the 1992 recession that cost the older Bush his second term in office.

 

What about 20th anniversary did they do anything about that?

 

that would have been 87, and to my knowledge no they didn't. They have never made a big deal out of the Anniversary cars.

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89 Trans Am Turbo 3.8L All stock 43,000 miles #1053 of 1555

Past Thirdgen:
86 Trans Am w/ built 355TPI with SLP goodies and too much other stuff to List. One sweet *** car, wish I would have had a good enough Job to pay insurance on three cars so I could keep it, but for a 89 Turbo Trans Am w/ Low miles, I think I made the right choice!

 

kyle, some history comin up here.

the ls6 was a one-year wonder engine for the chevelle. it came in the chevelle only in 1970. iron heads, 11.25:1 compression, solid cam, 450 horse.

in 71, it moved to the corvette, got aluminum heads, and a 2.25 point drop in compression. stayed till 72 iirc

regardless, i think chevy has pulled some pretty stupid things, and i think their decision not to build a camaro because it might interfere with corvette sales is pure bullsh!t. people are still gonna buy a corvette just to say they own a corvette. NOT because they're one of the fastest production vehicles on earth. if they were to have built the ultimate 25 anniversary back in 92, and had i been old enough to drive and also had enough money for the asking price, you had better believe i'd be at oen of the local chevy dealers filling out my order form.

 

I think chevy just went downhill in the muscle car category every since the horsepower races were over, back then they were leaders and everyone was trying to catch up to them, not to say that the camaro's and vettes they make now dont look good up to the third gens and new vette's but chevy's high dollar market was and still is in the V8 department, nobody cares for the 6's puttering around out there especially chevy, they just slap some cubic inches together and call it a V6, but with V8's they're designed to have a wider field of mods to be done to them and they know that to, but when the corporates are lured away by the mighty dollar they could care less about what they are doing, nowadays chevy is more of a follower instead of a leader with exception to the vette, even the ill fated fourth gen camaros fail victim to this, ever notice the front end of the fourth gens look similar to Chrysler's Sebring? Sooner or later they'll just all be meshed together in a big production line spittin em out by the thousands. I think if chevy went back to thier muscle car roots, looks, horsepower, cubic inches and all they could make a killing, but like somebody else said its because of all the friggin idiots we have driving about these days, i have the same problem in the parking lot at my work, there's a four way stop and the people coming from the sides act like there isnt even a friggin stop sign right there, somebody has already been t-boned and a few more fender benders here and there, i just know if some a$$ runs that stop sign and hits me i dont give a...
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91 Blue RS with ASCD SS hood w/hood pins, Flowmaster 80 series w/3 inch dual exhaust, K&N, Hypertech Power Chip, Bosch Platinum wires and plugs, rebuilt transmission with shift kit.

Soon to be added:
Z28 spoiler.(to compliment the ram air hood)
New paint.(black with orange stripes)
A 3.4L V6.(WOOHOO!!)

Official Kills:
80something Monte Carlo SS(had 5 people in it)
New Civic(Blew him away)
Ford Splash(Souped up somehow, he was chirpin every shift)
Late 90's Crustang

[This message has been edited by mAjInRS (edited July 23, 2001).]

 

f*** who it is i'm gonn kill somebody, just cause i'm fed up with society like i'm sure everyone else is. In this world now where supposedly bigger is better the car markets are leaning mainly to catering to their bigger vans and SUV's, that's the last thing we need is more soccor moms on the road with bigger suv's classified in the 18 wheller catagory driving around like they're the only ones on the freakin road cuttin people off like nothing and all this and that, i cant stand this ****! I was watching something on the news where GM is catagorizing the PT Cruiser as a SUV! Just so they can get a bigger chunk in that part of the market. And GM wonders why they think they have to cut off the production of the camaro cause they dont sell as well, well look what they did to it! It doesnt have any *****! why do you think they had people lining up to buy all the 1st gens, cause they GAVE the public what THEY wanted instead of TELLING them what they could have like nowadays. I'm done.....for now


[This message has been edited by mAjInRS (edited July 23, 2001).]

 

Chrysler makes the PT cruiser and yes the insurance comapnies finally declared it a Truck last winter.
I wouldn't watch that news program anymore, they obviously messed up

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89 Trans Am Turbo 3.8L All stock 43,000 miles #1053 of 1555

Past Thirdgen:
86 Trans Am w/ built 355TPI with SLP goodies and too much other stuff to List. One sweet *** car, wish I would have had a good enough Job to pay insurance on three cars so I could keep it, but for a 89 Turbo Trans Am w/ Low miles, I think I made the right choice!