Tire sizes
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yes but they will mess up your speedo
you want to get 225/60R15
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you want to get 225/60R15
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fiream, how do you figure? As long as the rims stay the same, and tire profile stays the same, the speedo will be the same... Tire width has nothing to do with it.
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Yeah, that's what I thought. If I'm wrong, please inform me because I was planning on getting the 235's on the back as well....
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He's right, it will make your speedo off.
Here, I'll break it down for you:
235/60/15
235 Tread width in in millimeters
60 sidewall height expressed as a % of tread width.
15 Rim diameter in inches.
So if you go from a 225/60 series to a 235/60 you increase the overall height of the tire by 12mm (10mm increase in width X 60% = 6mm increase in each sidewall. 2 side walls so 6mm X 2 = 12mm). Increasing the height increases the circumfrence, there by making the speedo off. If you go to a 235/55/15 you'll stay closer to your original circumference.
Here, I'll break it down for you:
235/60/15
235 Tread width in in millimeters
60 sidewall height expressed as a % of tread width.
15 Rim diameter in inches.
So if you go from a 225/60 series to a 235/60 you increase the overall height of the tire by 12mm (10mm increase in width X 60% = 6mm increase in each sidewall. 2 side walls so 6mm X 2 = 12mm). Increasing the height increases the circumfrence, there by making the speedo off. If you go to a 235/55/15 you'll stay closer to your original circumference.
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I have BFGoodrich 235/60/15 on the rear of my car and the speedo is NOT off. At least not enough to notice.
If you go to www.tirerack.com (I think) you can see the difference between the radii of the 235/60 and the 215/65(stock size) and it ain't much. I think it was 0.2-0.5 mph at 50mph off.
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If you go to www.tirerack.com (I think) you can see the difference between the radii of the 235/60 and the 215/65(stock size) and it ain't much. I think it was 0.2-0.5 mph at 50mph off.
Dale
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I only said it would be off, I never said how much...
I still like the shorter sidewalls that the 50 or 55 series gives you. The less sidewall you have the less flex, squirm and tread roll you get when turning, i.e. hard, fast cornering. I don't know about you guys but when I get a wild hair to take a turn way too fast I want every advantage I can get.
I still like the shorter sidewalls that the 50 or 55 series gives you. The less sidewall you have the less flex, squirm and tread roll you get when turning, i.e. hard, fast cornering. I don't know about you guys but when I get a wild hair to take a turn way too fast I want every advantage I can get.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by fiream:
yes but they will mess up your speedo
you want to get 225/60R15
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yes but they will mess up your speedo
you want to get 225/60R15
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I have 255/60/15 on the back of mine and I got a speeding ticket back in April over it. I had the cruise set at 55, but I was really doing 66.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Black 86 'bird:
I have 255/60/15 on the back of mine and I got a speeding ticket back in April over it. I had the cruise set at 55, but I was really doing 66.
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I have 255/60/15 on the back of mine and I got a speeding ticket back in April over it. I had the cruise set at 55, but I was really doing 66.
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Tire calculator says that with a 235/60R15 will read 1.84% to slow. But you have to remember that at highway speeds that percentage increases.The tire you need is a 245/55R15.
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[This message has been edited by fiream (edited September 15, 2001).]
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[This message has been edited by fiream (edited September 15, 2001).]
Guys, I have 235/60's all the way around, and my speedometer is dead on. We have those lil highway speed things that tell you how fast you're going around here, and they're always right on my speed, plus when I checked my speed after I got them, it was dead on w/ my friend's Z28.
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So, all in all the 235/60 will fit on my 15X7 rim. And the car calls for 215/65, which works out to almost the same height. I just ed wanted to know if they fit, not speedo readings...Thanx,
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Joe_L:
So, all in all the 235/60 will fit on my 15X7 rim. And the car calls for 215/65, which works out to almost the same height. I just ed wanted to know if they fit, not speedo readings...Thanx,</font>
So, all in all the 235/60 will fit on my 15X7 rim. And the car calls for 215/65, which works out to almost the same height. I just ed wanted to know if they fit, not speedo readings...Thanx,</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CaliCamaroRS:
11 mph more??? I used to have 245/60/15's and it wasn't off more than 2-3 mph.
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11 mph more??? I used to have 245/60/15's and it wasn't off more than 2-3 mph.
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The "first" large tire I put on the back rims were P245/60r15's. They were Goodyear GT+4's, and I never spent that much on a rear tire again!
Those were the stock rims at the time, the 15x7's, and I didn't have to do any wheelwell modifications.
It also never occurred to me way back then that my speedo would be off!
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Those were the stock rims at the time, the 15x7's, and I didn't have to do any wheelwell modifications.It also never occurred to me way back then that my speedo would be off!

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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l)
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Oh Crap; I wasn't paying attention; sorry! The P245/60r15's will fit on the rim, but I don't know if they'll fit the car on the front. For some reason I forgot about the front wheels... sorry!
Hey, wait; didn't a Trans-Am come with P245's up front?
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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l)
Hey, wait; didn't a Trans-Am come with P245's up front?
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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l)
I'm going with original size tires. Why.
Cheapest thing I can find, right now. I run it at 36 PSI, works fine.
I found a brand new 215/65/15 for $15 at a swap meet. One more tire to go.
Yea, us in LA don't worry to much about snow.
BUT I SURE DO WORRY ABOT RAIN!
I'd love to have new Goodyears all around, but....
When I can find "free" tires at swap meets, I'll live with it.
My 1974 Corvette is 225/70/15 all around, the stock size on the 15x8 stock steel wheels.
I always try to stay stock size. TRY.
That way, I can rotate the tires and equal tire wear all around. That helps big time. BUT, I have 215/60/15 on the front of my 1967 Camaro & 245/60/15 on the back (on 15x7 wheels. too). For that "little" purpose car, I don't worry about rotating tires. I just like the classic Big & Little, lowered front end, look on a classic style ride (reminds me of the days of 1970's Drag Racing Class Pro Stock). My Wifes 1968 Camaro is all same size, for rotating/wear purposes.
Differnt cars, different missions.
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Cheapest thing I can find, right now. I run it at 36 PSI, works fine.
I found a brand new 215/65/15 for $15 at a swap meet. One more tire to go.
Yea, us in LA don't worry to much about snow.
BUT I SURE DO WORRY ABOT RAIN!
I'd love to have new Goodyears all around, but....
When I can find "free" tires at swap meets, I'll live with it.
My 1974 Corvette is 225/70/15 all around, the stock size on the 15x8 stock steel wheels.
I always try to stay stock size. TRY.
That way, I can rotate the tires and equal tire wear all around. That helps big time. BUT, I have 215/60/15 on the front of my 1967 Camaro & 245/60/15 on the back (on 15x7 wheels. too). For that "little" purpose car, I don't worry about rotating tires. I just like the classic Big & Little, lowered front end, look on a classic style ride (reminds me of the days of 1970's Drag Racing Class Pro Stock). My Wifes 1968 Camaro is all same size, for rotating/wear purposes.
Differnt cars, different missions.
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I would not put more than a 225 on a 7" rim... it will look a little out of place and you will get a slightly off reading... if need be, go with a 235/55R15 I feel kinda silly running 215's on my 8" rims now... tires are crappy though, so they'll burn out... then I'm gettin' some 245's 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TomP:
Wow! Why so high? I use 32 PSI front, 33 psi rear.
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Wow! Why so high? I use 32 PSI front, 33 psi rear.
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damn, i just got 14" wheels, oh well, at least the tires will be cheaper. I think thones on now are like 195/70 or 75. no need to get skinnies for the track 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Joe_L:
44 PSI in front and rear....</font>
44 PSI in front and rear....</font>
I have 225/60's and I have em at 30-31
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Joe_L:
Thats what they call for, and two GAS MILAGE.
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Thats what they call for, and two GAS MILAGE.

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