Bought Lowering Springs,Now What?
Bought Lowering Springs,Now What?
I bought some Ebiach lowering springs that are made for V8 Thirdgens and want to put them in my '90 RS with a 3.1 in it. They are supposed to drop the car something like 1 inch in the rear, and 1 1/2 inches in the front. The guy I bought them from cut the rear springs so in his car,it was sitting 1 1/2 inches all around. My question is, what do I have to do so the front sits even with the back? I obviously have to compensate for the less weight of my V6 compared to the heavier V8 that the springs are made for. Do I just cut the front springs with a hacksaw? Will it make the front springs looser than they would be if they weren't cut? How much do I cut off? Has anybody with a V6 done this before? Any help is appreciated.
one, you wont notice the 1/2" difference between the front and rear and two you wont notice the drop hardly at all. Well I say that from what mine looks like. But I also had worn springs so that might be why I didnt notice it. Anyways you dont want to cut springs. Big no no
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by c-5invalid:
get a different set from a junk yard or somewhere....</font>
get a different set from a junk yard or somewhere....</font>
How high will the front end be? Won't it be a lot higher since the springs are made to support the heavier V8? There will be less weight from the lighter V6 on the front end causing it to sit higher than if there were more weight from the heavier V8,wich is what the springs are made for won't it?.
Or is the weight difference not enough to raise the front at all? So what you're saying is that the height that it gains from less weight on them,won't be visible?.....Interesting..... So the springs I have now, will work just fine without any modifications? Give me a little more feedback.
Or is the weight difference not enough to raise the front at all? So what you're saying is that the height that it gains from less weight on them,won't be visible?.....Interesting..... So the springs I have now, will work just fine without any modifications? Give me a little more feedback.
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Car: 1986 Firebird
Engine: 2.8 V6
Transmission: 700R4
I've heard the same, too... that the car still lowers a bit. Plus, after the springs "settle" in your suspension, the car might lower a bit more. Even further, these used to be behind a v8- so they might be a bit more broken in to begin with!
Let us know how it goes- I think I want to lower the front of my car slightly (1/2 inch to an inch); and these might be just the ticket.
Let us know how it goes- I think I want to lower the front of my car slightly (1/2 inch to an inch); and these might be just the ticket.
I see what you're saying about the front. It'll probabaly only lower 1/2 an inch ,but the back springs were cut (buy the person I bought them from) so it sits 1 1/2 inches lower than stock. So the back end will be lowered 1 1/2 inches and the front,maybe 1/2 an inch. Will the 1 inch higher in the front be a noticable difference? Will the stance sit funny? I have about 175,000 miles on my stock springs. So they are probably pretty worn out and lower than if they were new. I need some more help guys. Thanks
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From: Schotten, Germany
Car: Firebird
Engine: 3.1 L
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sprint coils makes a set of coils specifically for the v6, and it will drop you 1.75 front 1.5 back for an agressive stance. if you were to use the v8 application, your 6 would look like a monster truck, trust me, i have made that mistake before. good luck on the drop.
I changed three times, at least I cut them.
I changed three times, at least I cut them.
Horst, that's what I'm afraid of,it looking like a lifted camaro
. So ,if I cut a close to a full coil off of the front springs,wouldn't that even the the front and back out so it sits pretty even? And since the spring rate is stiffer than stock and there isn't much being cut off,would it still mess up the spring rate and make the front prone to bottoming out and being loose?
I read somewhere that you can cut the springs up to an inch and they will still have the same stiffnes,but cutting them shouldn't be your main source of lowering,just fine tuning the ride height. I really want to use these spings,but I don't know if I could make them work.
. So ,if I cut a close to a full coil off of the front springs,wouldn't that even the the front and back out so it sits pretty even? And since the spring rate is stiffer than stock and there isn't much being cut off,would it still mess up the spring rate and make the front prone to bottoming out and being loose?
I read somewhere that you can cut the springs up to an inch and they will still have the same stiffnes,but cutting them shouldn't be your main source of lowering,just fine tuning the ride height. I really want to use these spings,but I don't know if I could make them work.
Originally posted by KED85
Apparently you already own the springs.
Install them and let us know what happens.
After 175, 000 miles, spring usage cycle is worn out.
And car thus sits lower than before.
Apparently you already own the springs.
Install them and let us know what happens.
After 175, 000 miles, spring usage cycle is worn out.
And car thus sits lower than before.
..It rides rough though
i watched an episode of 'TRUCKS' on tnn. they said that a cheap way to lower a vehicle is to cut off chunks of the springs, install them, see how it looks, and take them back out and cut off more if needed. it's a lot of work but it will work. they also said not to cut off more than a 1/4 of a spiral at a time.
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you have to cut exactly one coil, heat the new end up untill is red glowing, than bent it so it fits in the dome correct, I had a blacksmith done it for me. no probs at all
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Car: '86 Camaro
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Transmission: T-5
I put in eibock springs and kyb shock/struts all in one shot a while back. Had a buddy who works in a shop help me. We came across the same problem too. the springs are made for the weight of a v8. So we cut the springs, not a full turn as horst suggested but just a 1/4 of a turn (didnt toutch the rear springs). and man it sits real nice! the tire isnt sucked into the well and it isnt riding high and showing well, but the tire is just at the top of the fender. its actualy about 1/2 inch lower than my buddys 86 TA with the WS6 suspention.
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oh...forgot to mention that the rubber rings that sit on top of the front springs were kinda smooshed down. i should have replaced those. If I had, then the spring may have requiered to be cut a little more
they make 1" lowering springs for the V6. I know. I sell them. Sprint Springs? I think makes them. I do not have the price on them cause I have not called for it yet. I am just going to use the V8 Springs after I get the motor I want put into it. After that it will weigh just about the same in the front.
Luke,how much was the front end suppose to lower a V8 car in the front? ?Was it 1.75 inches like mine are? Also,ya think a dremel tool would be able to cut through a front spring? If not,what should I cut them with?
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From: phoenix
Car: '86 Camaro
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Transmission: T-5
The Ebiach springs, for v8, I believe is supposed to drop 1.5 front and 1.25 rear. or 1.75/1.5 is been a few years Im not positive. My buddy used an air driven spining disk to cut through it like butter. I think thats a dremmel. I dont have one so i dont know
Ya,your right Luke,it's 1.5 in the front and 1.25 in the back. I don't know what I was thinking. Anyway,The dremel I was talking about is just battery powered,so it's not very powerful. Think it would still cut them? What else can I cut them with? A hacksaw? Wouldn't it take for ever to cut them with a hacksaw?
Originally posted by Blue91
Ya,your right Luke,it's 1.5 in the front and 1.25 in the back. I don't know what I was thinking. Anyway,The dremel I was talking about is just battery powered,so it's not very powerful. Think it would still cut them? What else can I cut them with? A hacksaw? Wouldn't it take for ever to cut them with a hacksaw?
Ya,your right Luke,it's 1.5 in the front and 1.25 in the back. I don't know what I was thinking. Anyway,The dremel I was talking about is just battery powered,so it's not very powerful. Think it would still cut them? What else can I cut them with? A hacksaw? Wouldn't it take for ever to cut them with a hacksaw?
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