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Old May 7, 2012 | 11:09 AM
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wel yesterday i went to go check out the car and waisted 120$ in gas, the car was completely crap, had nothing absoulutely NOTHING of interior, only good thing about it was the body kit. no windshields or nothing.. got pissed off. i will never again trust a craigslist seller
on the bright side i got 350 to spend. so fastedd can you link me up to the stuff i will need to tune? might as well buy it right now.
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Old May 7, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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Re: Turboing V6 Start

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wel yesterday i went to go check out the car and waisted 120$ in gas, the car was completely crap, had nothing absoulutely NOTHING of interior, only good thing about it was the body kit. no windshields or nothing.. got pissed off. i will never again trust a craigslist seller
on the bright side i got 350 to spend. so fastedd can you link me up to the stuff i will need to tune? might as well buy it right now.

This http://www.moates.net/burn2-chip-pro....html?cPath=64

This http://www.moates.net/gp1-package-gm....html?cPath=64

And this http://aldlcables.com/sc/details.asp?item=aldlobd1

Im doubting youll be running over 15psi but if you ever think you will you will need a 3bar map sensor like this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-3-bar-Map...item29fd217326

Or for 0-15psi of boost youll need a 2 bar map sensor like this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-2-BAR-MAP...item4d00441ff8

Personally I have a 3 bar map sensor. But either way you need a 2 or 3 bar map sensor to read boost as the one you have now will not read boost at all.

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Old May 7, 2012 | 02:20 PM
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k well i got the 3 bar map. and i need help, do i need this? :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/T3-T4-T3-T4-...42248100214678

K. so here is the update: i bought the bov. flanges. 3 bar. intercooler. and the tubro of course.

other then the piping what else do i need like lines and what not?
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6ft of this, http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-AN-Push-L...item4cebed7720
2 of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-an-Male-F...item35a4d9a3b1
2 of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Push-Lock...item4cebdf280e

You'll need a few other odd parts but you can get them at napa and there cheep, such as a bung for the oil pan that you will weld on. This is the oil retun stuff.


6ft of this... Im trying to find that blue 4an hose at the moment but all I can find is braded stuff??
2 of theses http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pro-4-An-Str...fef39a&vxp=mtr
2 of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-an-Male-Fl...d948da&vxp=mtr
1 of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/T3-T4-Turbo-...item35b63040cc

else then that youll need a few 1/8th pipe 90* or 45* elbows and nipples from the local parts store and also a single 1/8th pipe tee and thats all the oil feed stuff.

Ebay kits wont work right as there way to short in length. All the stuff cost like $80 or so IIRC but it works well and looks nice also.

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Old May 7, 2012 | 02:58 PM
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Re: Turboing V6 Start

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k well i got the 3 bar map. and i need help, do i need this? :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/T3-T4-T3-T4-...42248100214678

K. so here is the update: i bought the bov. flanges. 3 bar. intercooler. and the tubro of course.

other then the piping what else do i need like lines and what not?
the ebay oil lines are junk, fast is prolly getting u the list of parts i gave to him much much better stuff and its cheaper
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ok. and on the moates stuff, when i click on it, it says i need a password? orsomething like that?
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Old May 7, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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Re: Turboing V6 Start

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ok. and on the moates stuff, when i click on it, it says i need a password? orsomething like that?
Yea you should just go ahead and log in as a new member there. Its easier that way. Or you can just go to moates.com then click the items I listed, instead of useing the links.
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k ordered the hoses. only thing i havent ordered yet is the wideband o2 sensor, will i need it right away or can that wait?
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Old May 8, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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Your going to need the wideband o2 sensor before you initially start the car with the turbo.
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k sounds good. is that going to be connected to the o2 sensor?
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Re: Turboing V6 Start

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k sounds good. is that going to be connected to the o2 sensor?
i use one of these

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AEM-AIR-FUEL...item4845406d0b

try bidding on it 165 is a great price as is 190 if u end up just doing a buy it now

i paid 165 for mine
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k sounds good. is that going to be connected to the o2 sensor?
If you get the SLC-DIY2 sensor kit that I have, you can toss out the stock one and just use the wideband o2 sensor only. Ill explain more once you get whichever kit you get, but if it has a simulated narrowband out put you can get rid of the stock narrowband o2 sensor, and also if it has a linear output you can record the AFR's like I do on your laptop while datalogging.

Basically its just a sensor, and a controler that you will read the AF ratio on. Remember seeing mine in videos?

There is about 20 different things that sensor/controler that I have can do. And its not hard to wire up at all as I got it to work and have never had a issue.

14point7.com its the slc diy2 wideband kit.
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head gasket came in, going to be removing the heads today. FINALY!! lol. only bad this is that i dont have a side grinder just a hand tool and a hand sander, will this work?
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Old May 9, 2012 | 02:33 PM
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head gasket came in, going to be removing the heads today. FINALY!! lol. only bad this is that i dont have a side grinder just a hand tool and a hand sander, will this work?

Whatd you need that stuff for? Porting the heads?? Sandpaper and you'll be doing that till the year 2060...

Just get a dremel kit, thats what I used and it was cheep and got the job done along with a few carbide bits.


Look to get at least 2 carbide bits.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbide-Burr...21cbde&vxp=mtr

Shop arround and youll probley find them cheeper as I think I paid like 12 bucks a piece for mine.

the Ball Shape, 1/2" Diameter Head, 1/4 x 6" Shank

And Olive (Egg) Shape, 1/2" x 7/8" Head, 1/4 x 6" Shank

I used these 2 bits along with a dremel kit from lowes and it worked out well.

But the thing is make sure the size of the dremmel or what you use has the same chuck diameter as the bits. These bits above are 1/4 inch and some dremmel or knock off dremmels are 1/8 inch.



Would you happend to have a air compressor at your house?? If not something like this would work better then a lil dremmel. http://www.ebay.com/itm/HEAVY-DUTY-L...item1c215cedf5


Project89 will prob chime in and help on this also as hes who guided me.

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if u dont have an air compressor this works very well

http://www.harborfreight.com/electri...aft-44141.html

though i need a very steady hand to do the finish work with one of those as they arent lite

also the aem eugo wideband also has a narowband output and a wideband output for datalogging along with the display

the display is a standard 2 1/16th gauge so it fits in any gauge pod
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k, BTW has anyone heard from jess, he doing alright?
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k, BTW has anyone heard from jess, he doing alright?
No I havent, i hope he is ok, I was really having fun tuning his car for him.
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Old May 10, 2012 | 03:35 PM
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No I havent, i hope he is ok, I was really having fun tuning his car for him.
hopefully he is just busy beating the SH^T out of rice burners. haha

ok so idk what to do after this: can you give me the next steps to get it off? and finish? o want this done by today lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwwAnkvEMKM
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Ok, I cant tell really good what you have all of in that video but ill make some sugesstions. You need to remove the lower intake manifold.


The aluminum manifold that is dead center on top of the motor in this pic. You also need to remove the dizzy if you havent yet. Dont worrie about marking the dizzy where its at or anything like that. Just carfully undo the hold down bolt, unclip the wires and take her out and store it somewhere nice so it doesnt get messed up. Also make sure you always cover any hole exposed in your engine so that nothing will fall in them.

The easiest way to get down to business is to remove as much as possible such as your belt, your ignition coil, you radiator hoses, your alt, air pump, and you air cleaner assembly, exc... It makes it much easier. Since you not in a rush take your time and get her done right.

Taking the heads off is as simple as un bolting bolt after bolt, but just dont forget how it goes back together. And dont loose any nuts or bolts.

Also on the heads youll have a stud on each one that is near the firewall that has wires on them as ground wires. Those need to be taken off also. Along with unbolting the ex manifolds from the heads.

When your about to remove the heads, first un bolt the nuts on the studs that hold the rocker arms down so that you can take off the push rods. Lable the push rods how ever so that you put them back on the same cylinder/valve when your done.

Lableing and pictures are the key to a first time tear down as once you do it once youll remember where everything goes.

Hope this helped a little. Add a few pictures of exactly what is taken off and I can help some more.

Keep in mind that your engine will sorta look like this without the heads off(I had a little more off then you need to) so just keep getting parts off and this is a good oppertunity to learn your car and clean the engine bay up.

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k. i will start on that right now, BTW Check this out: Got Some Of My New Toys

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Old May 10, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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BTW man, i wont be needing my CAI anymore will i? because some guy needs a CAI and if turbo will be put into the intake then ill sell this to get some money tu by other parts
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Nope sell, the CAI while ya can, that always helps with the turbo build fund. Also sell the injectors too if you can. Remember thats why I sold you mine a few months ago.
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Old May 10, 2012 | 04:55 PM
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k, whats the info on the fuel injctrs.?
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actually, do i need to sell the injectors or can i keep them? since im going to buy the tuning stuff
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Those fuel injectors will only support like 160hp at the very very max unless you jack up the fuel pressure a ton with a adjustable fuel pressure regulator, which I dont recommend.

Look for 28-32 lbs injectors either on here or contact south bay injectors as their a member on here. Look to spend about $130 or so total(IIRC) for 6 32lbs injectors from them(southbay08). Then try to sell yours off for 50-100 bucks since there brand new and have very little miles on them.
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k that sounds good, ehh thats not bad att all for some F.I's. so ill get on top of that. more to buy on the 20th,
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k. i will start on that right now, BTW Check this out: Got Some Of My New Toys


Dave...looks like theres another turbo V6 in the mist. Thats awsome!
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Old May 10, 2012 | 07:29 PM
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hey fasteddi will these work? https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...injectors.html
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42lbs are kindof big to be running on $59 but from what Ive learned go with 36lbs or smaller. Did you contact southbay injectors?? There resonable!



What Rbob said about me getting large ones at one point."Tough to say. If he can get the injector compensation specs for them it will be much easier. Since the $58/$59 code won't do single fire the minimum PW that the injector can handle will make a difference.

The ECM can control the injector PW to 0.01526 milli-seconds (15.26 usec)." Basically this is saying it could be hard to get your car to idle. And from what Ive learned on the $59 tuning mask, the idle is the hardest part anyways. My advice...get smaller ones as you see how fast im going and there 28lbs injectors. Unless you looking for 300Hp+ just get 28lbs or so from southbay and in time you can get a adjustable fuel pressure regulator to make the pressure go up and then the injectors will act larger. That is what I just did. Doing the math my injectors are now flowing 32lbs insted of the 28lbs just from a 20 dollar AFPR. And I really didnt turn the fuel pressure up to much.

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get a set of 32 or 36 pound injectors and be done with it, u shouldnt run into idle issues with those injectors, normally when i do a turbo v6 car i tell them to get 42/48 or 50# injectors. we did 48's in pilsburys car but we also put a megasquirt in his and there was no issues tunning the idle in it

i have to get u a link for the right vband flange for the downpipe on that turbo i just dont rember if its a 2.5 or 3 inch vband do u have the link to the auction u got it from ?
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k. can you give me the specs of the injectors i have right now so i can put them up for sale?
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yes its the very 1st post on this thread, i also bought a flange, did i not get the right one? also recieved my 3bar maf sensor.
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[quote=fasteddi;5250721]theses are the items i have recieved and ordered

Intercooler
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-FR...9b61e2&vxp=mtr

Blow Off Valve
http://www.ebay.com/itm/30-PSI-ADJUS...9bfdd6&vxp=mtr

Flanges for the turbo
http://www.ebay.com/itm/T3-T04E-Turb...61c3ad&vxp=mtr


Or a 3 bar(which is what I have)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-STYLE-SUP...4fcc51&vxp=mtr


quote]

and the turbo
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Re: Turboing V6 Start

never mind i found it its a 2.5 inch

u also need to get one of these

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-2-...item1c26cd2fa9
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Old May 10, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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the square flange u bought is for the turbo inlet , the vband one i linked u to is for the downpipe
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Old May 10, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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never mind i found it its a 2.5 inch

u also need to get one of these

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-2-...item1c26cd2fa9
i think i have it already, let me take a pic of all the stuff i got, to clarify.
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Old May 10, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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Old May 10, 2012 | 08:01 PM
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ok. what you where talking about is right next to the turbo is it not?

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Yea you have the V-band in there.

You current injectors are 15lbs ones.
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Old May 10, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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k. MAN IM SO EXCITED! i think im going to keep my car a sleeper bro, just get a paintjob, tint windows,airbag suspension, and some rims, more then likely 18 on front 20s on back, ok so i saw a side grinder at walmart for 16 bucks, and also a pen looking one, for 20$, whitch one should i get?
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yup the turbo came with the downpipe flange so u dont need the one i linked you too
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Old May 11, 2012 | 06:28 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV9dZ8AfESE

check it out ed, tell me what you think.

oh BTW whats ur name? haha its weird when i call you fasteddi. i wouldnt go up to you and be like hey fasteddi its greencamaro13 how you been? lol
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Old May 12, 2012 | 03:36 PM
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When putting back on the head gasket can i do one at a time? OH BTW the cylinders where FULL!!!! of cooling fluid, good thing i changed it now.. time to polish the heads, will post pics
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Re: Turboing V6 Start

Originally Posted by GreenCamaro13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV9dZ8AfESE

check it out ed, tell me what you think.

oh BTW whats ur name? haha its weird when i call you fasteddi. i wouldnt go up to you and be like hey fasteddi its greencamaro13 how you been? lol
Just call me Mark. My last names eddington so thats how I got the nick name awhile back.

You def. got a bad head gasket Id guess. Did you all ready drain all the oil out of the car?? If not, do so!! Take a litte desel and pour it down those vallys where you see all the coolent. This is what I did when my car blew a gasket a few months back. I also poured a little tranny fluid down there to. But Just pour the desel down while the oil drain plug is out. So that wou will flush the oil system as much as you can.

There is a rubber O ring gasket on the dizzy. You sould go ahead and get one, just call a local parts store and get one as that could have been your oil leak you had all along. Take some pics when you get the head off. Was the car overheating at all?? Take lots of pictures so that we can see if the heads are in good shape.
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i recorded a video let me upload it of how my stuff looks and tommorow i am going to take the other side off, the car was warming up somewhat but when i would go at about 50 mphs+ it would cool down, idleing warmed it up pretty damn fast.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVft8nrucj0 Here it is.
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Re: Turboing V6 Start

Originally Posted by GreenCamaro13
Get all that fluid out asap, and then oil down those cylinders. Can you take a picture of the head gasket? Just take a picture or video of it so we can see if it was a blown headgasket that caused that mess, and also video tape the heads, as you need to find out why you had all that coolent in there. It may of been a blown H gasket, or warped heads, cracked head, exc.
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Old May 13, 2012 | 12:50 PM
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what im thinking is that it was because i forgot to flush the cooling fluid and when i remved the heads it poured in there from the ports, since it was full.let me go record and take some pics
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Old May 13, 2012 | 01:31 PM
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Here it is. back to work on car, hey man can you fly a text at me so i wont have to keep logging on if you have any

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Old May 13, 2012 | 01:33 PM
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Re: Turboing V6 Start

Originally Posted by GreenCamaro13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UFIY...e=context-vrec

Here it is. back to work on car, hey man can you fly a text at me so i wont have to keep logging on if you have any questions? heres the #: 7754001990
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