Alright So Starting on The 5th im going to be buying some turbo stuff: i dont know much about turbos but plan on learning in the process, this is the turbo im looking at getting with a Wastgate built in:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/T3-T4-2-5-V-...item3a6bd92eeb

what other parts would you reccomend in particular ( certain brands and what not) to use with this application.

 

ebay rfl bov 35$
ebay intercooler with 2.5inch inlet and outlets 60$
t3 turbo flange 10$
intercooler plumbing kit 50$
1 vband kit for the downpipe 24$
various oil line fittingd and line prolly about 30-45$ in stuff
and u will need some ex tubing to connect the turbo to the ypipe and to connect the downpipe u can get this from mandrel-bends.com the cheapest and will prolly run u about 50-75$

and then u will need injectors and the stuff to tune unless u can get somone to burn u chips



but the biggest question is can u weld? if u dont have a welder and or cant weld then u wont be able to put a turbo on the car cheap

 

Heres some of the parts I bought, so you may want other things or people may reccoment diferent items. But I was on a budget so this is the stuff I got.

You already know the turbo I got, so here is some of the other main parts:

Intercooler
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-FR...9b61e2&vxp=mtr

Blow Off Valve
http://www.ebay.com/itm/30-PSI-ADJUS...9bfdd6&vxp=mtr

Flanges for the turbo
http://www.ebay.com/itm/T3-T04E-Turb...61c3ad&vxp=mtr
AND
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-BOLT-FLANG...e28682&vxp=mtr

Map sensor to use for tuning either 2 or 3 bar map depending on what you want to use(mask)

2bar/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-2BAR-MAP-...7b6673&vxp=mtr

Or a 3 bar(which is what I have)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-STYLE-SUP...4fcc51&vxp=mtr

Wideband o2 sensor kit(this is a must in my mind) This is what I have.
http://14point7.com/SLC-DIY-2.php Very very good one for 200 bucks!

Theres alot of little stuff to get too but its a start.

Depending on a megasquirt or not you will need Either the moates tuning equiptment or a megasquirt system which project89 knows very well.

This is a start and it ALL depends on what you can do yourself and what your capible of as a welder is a must when your doing this fabrication, without a welder for the piping your looking at A TON of $$ in exspences!

 

he wont need the 5 bolt flange if he gets the turbo with the internal wastegate it has a vband downpipe flange

 

opps, I just saw hes getting that one with the internal wastegate.

Whats the benifit of getting one like that compared having a external wastegate.

 

simpler to install , i prefer external wastegate over internal though, external gives much better boost control since the wastegate is actually larger

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Bl...612554&vxp=mtr

Hows This For A Blowoff Valve?

And

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-FR...9b61e2&vxp=mtr
This for a intercooler??

 

Ahh didnt know that, so i might have to reonsider my choice,

 

i actually dont know how ; nor have the tools to learn, but im sure a friend of mine does so i will look around see who does and ask them for help

 

before u buy anything see if u can find somone to do the welding for u, if not u can buy a cheap mig welder from harbor frieght for 100$ and do it with that.

its not to hard to weld with a mig but it does take some practice

 

that bov is junk, the intercoller is fine

 

ok i will do, so a outer intercooler is best for my choice right? instead of built in? to give more power off?

 

Dont buy that RS type BOV on your link. They are junk as I have one im using as a paper weight at the moment. Buy the RFL one I linked.

 

k, i will start researching on how to weld, the closest thing to welding ive done is use a soldering iron, thats about it, lol

 

yea, i didnt see ur post till after, i will more then likely just buy the stuff you posted, IM SO EXCITED

 

Just so you know on the tuning of the car, as long as you get what jessie got on his car(this chip adapter kit, aldl cabble), a wideband o2 sensor, the 3 bar map sensor...I could just burn you a (safe tune chip). But you need to get your set up as close as possible to mine. This may save you a little $$ and flustration on tuning. Im just thowing the idea out there.

In the mean time do what dave said, look into the welding help and such as that is the easiest part, yet the hardest if you dont know how to weld or dont physically have a welder.

I burnt a pretty good tune for jessie the other day, considering its a basically stock car. Tuning a near stock N/A car is so much easier!! LOL But he did notice a godo difference in wide open throttle power.

 

awesome, alright man, well ima have to do as close to yours, only diff is idk if i want the built in intercooler or not.. what do you think? and for sure man, do i need a extra ecm? because the 82 camaro will have one for sure

 

Built in intercooler?? What do ya mean?

I lost the video I did have when I was starting my build. Ill take one in a bit and upload it for you to see, and try to explain some things. Theres alot of things involved and I just wana make sure you know that. Its not too difficult but you need to see my set up as Id guess you would want to make is somthing like that if on a budget. Also look at (project89) daves12sec.... sticky on the top of the V6 forum as thats what I modeled mine off of.

You dont need another ecm, your is fine.

 

meant wastegate lol, but yea man let me check it out

 

Well I just spend a few hours trying to compile my build on a seperate thread, read that thread and project89 sticky and that should really help you get a idea of whats involved

 

Alright man, Watched The Video and I Greatly Appreciate it, ok so i AM going to buy the intercooler you have, but i am afterall going to buy the turbo with the internal wastegate so it wont be so hard on me to weld,

 

No problem man, im always down to help anyone as much as I can. Did you ask arround and see if you can either borrow a welder for a while or have a friend help you on this build?? Welders are sorta cheep from harbor freight.. like 100-150 bucks. Well worth there money in gold!

 

im probably going to have to buy one man, but its ok, another good tool to add to my collection right?

 

also, how did you make it so that the turbo stays still without hitting the belt or any of that man?

 

Yes a welder is a VERY valuable tool!!! If you can buy one.. buy one as you'll need it more then you think once you have one.

 

Basically that turbo is mounted to the exhaust piping itself so that is what supports the turbo. This is why you must take your time and tac weld the piping as you go and make sure it will all line up the way you want it. Then go back and finish the welds once you know your happy with the placement.

Really look thought that new thread I made. The piping is really the easy part I think. Once you literly get your hands on the turbo, you just start routing pipe till its to the turbo. And once you get that far you can bolt the turbo down to flange on the piping from the ex manifolds for the time being and fabricate all the other piping to fit.

 

Alright so quick question, the turbo from the 1st post, will it work on the camaro (be compatible)

 

Yes you could use that turbo if you want to.

 

is there one that YOU reccomend, preferably with a built in wastegate,?

 

the turbo i posted is the same one fast eddi is using except it has an internal wastegate

 

ah i see, so it would be easy to relate, thxs 89 k, well i put it on my cart. waiting for my 204$ deposit from money owed to me

 

K, Well i found me a Professional Welder. He said He Would Charge Me 25$ a Hour to Get What I need Welded, So im Going to get everything setup and then let him do his magic, not too bad is it? also, im having problems with the headgasket removal, i cant seem to be able to take off the nut on the right-backside of the valve covers.

 

Take your time and dont strip them out. All the crap on the car is metric with the exception of a few bolts/nuts. I think those are 10mm nuts. Sometimes the stud will come out with the nut. Thats no big deal so just take your time and get her apart.

 

k. the only reason that i cant get it off is that the position wont let me reach a tool back there, and i cant use a wrench because the big line thing that sticks out.

 

Sometimes you have to take stuff of to take stuff off...you know what I mean.

 

lol k man. welltoday i painted my engine, its now pink... JK lol its black as well, then ima get a chrome pen and outline the lines on it so it can be added,

 

dude I just went 0-100mph in the car in 12.54 seconds!! I just had to tell ya. Im pumped right now, although it needs tuning but wow. Just keep that in mind when your building you car. Its a f-ing rush!

 

NICE !!! happy for you bro, cant wait till i get mine up to that velosity. what did you do toget it that fast?

 

sorta accidently jacked the boost to 15psi. Im usually running 12psi.

 

so i'm a total noob to the turbo stuff, what is the difference from a t3/t4 turbo and a gt-k turbo, other than price? im gonna turbo to the walls next year and i'm trying to plan ahead.

here's what im looking at and confused by...

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TNT-11260/ gt-k
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TNT-11025/ t3/t4

 

a t3/t4 turbo is a hybrid turbo

it has the hotside of a t3 sized turbo for faster spool and the compressor side of a t4 sized turbo for making lots of power

a fullsized t3 turbo will make about 280hp i think the biggest t3 wheel measures 40mm in size

the t4 wheel sizes start at 48mm and depending on which wheel it has can go all the way upto 650+ hp

the t4 turbo hot side wheel ( turbine) is to large to use on smaller displacement motors so thats how they came up with the t3/t4 turbo


the gtk turbos are a waste of money there are much better cheaper brand name turbos that preform much better

and honestly if ur going to turbo the v6 start out with a 118$ ebay turbo then once u get it all running etc and ur sure u like it go ahead and buy a garrett/precision,turbonetics turbo

 

ooooooooo, turbochargers for dummies. i understand now. thanks

 

""Acidentely"" huh haha well thats awesome man! what happens if you run it at 15 psi all the time?

 

My injectors are just getting maxed out. So until my adjustable fuel pressure regulator gets here I really dont feel comfortable with the 15psi.

But heres 13.5 psi and its rich. On my datalog 0-100mph in 12.84 seconds(basically 13 seconds) Let me remind you a stock auto 3.1L camaro 0-100mph time is roughly 29 seconds...LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnb_KJVAROI Sorry for the poor audio.

 

AWESOME! haha. so should i also add a adjustable FPR in my cart?

 

na, just get larger injectors then I did, 36lbs would make more Hp then youd need. But with injectors like that youd want a 255lph walbro fuel pump. I got one beacuse I killed the stock one.

 

just ordered the turbo, now onto the onters. tommoro gonna go pick up the camaro and part it out to make some money and fix my baby up

 

Which one did you buy?

 

the one posted at the very top of this thread, and i got me a intercooler, for the rest ima wait till i get the rest of my money

 

Next thing I think you should get it tuning equiptment. You need to decide if your going to get a megasquirt or use the stock ECM like Im using. Either way there is many ppl on here that can help you.