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Old Mar 8, 2002 | 10:35 PM
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What is the cheapest way to get about 200HP

i got a 2.8L and i want to get around 200HP and i wanted to know what the cheapest way to get it, wether it be modding the 2.8 or dropping a 3.4. if i had that much HP would i have to change all the same stuff like i would if i were doing a v8 swap?
i was planning on dropping a 3.4 in and maby a supercharger/turbo. but i dont know, im just trying to do it as cheap as possible what do u think

PS: im trying to steer away from nos but if i have to i will use it

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Old Mar 8, 2002 | 11:58 PM
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dropping in a 3.4 is PROBABLY the chapest way to get 200hp.. even the stock 3.4 is 160hp.. u would still have to do some stuff to that to get above 200.. r u talking at the crank or rr?? (dont quote me on this, but im pretty sure the stock hp # are at the crank w/ all the accessories..)

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Old Mar 8, 2002 | 11:59 PM
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Old Mar 9, 2002 | 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by loomdog32
r u talking at the crank or rr?? (dont quote me on this, but im pretty sure the stock hp # are at the crank w/ all the accessories..)

mike (loomdog)
it dosent really matter.. i just want to have about 200HP basically so i can beat all my friends cars, theyr always bragging how there car is faster than mine...also i want to have a little fun driving and not start out like my grandmother walking to the grocery store. i dont think you loose a lot of HP from the crank to the rr do you,... by "rr" you are meaning the wheels right?
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Old Mar 9, 2002 | 12:40 AM
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also, i just found out that stock 2002 monte carlo 3.4L engine comes stock w/ 180HP, would that engine fit easily into my firebird?? if not easily, can it be done
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Old Mar 9, 2002 | 12:41 AM
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sometimed i feel like i just want to sell my RS and save up for an Iroc... then i ask myself i probably wouuldnt get much for my rs... then i look outside and i remember how much i just love that car... i cant sell it... just cant...
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Old Mar 9, 2002 | 03:57 AM
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I know yall are gonna get pissed at me, but

Just get an 8.

That is the quickest easist upgrade.



(I have a 6 & 8 so I'm allowed to say that)

I don't drive my six for speed. I drive it to work.

I drive the 8 when I want to beat my friends...

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Old Mar 9, 2002 | 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by Kj Rockz
I know yall are gonna get pissed at me, but

Just get an 8.

That is the quickest easist upgrade.



(I have a 6 & 8 so I'm allowed to say that)

I don't drive my six for speed. I drive it to work.

I drive the 8 when I want to beat my friends...

i have to agree with this one......
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Old Mar 9, 2002 | 07:03 AM
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you can try to do the mods i got done to my engine. i would quess it has around 200 hp im not sure. it feels like it has around 190 to 200 hp
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Old Mar 9, 2002 | 07:09 AM
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by rr, i mean at the rear wheels (y did i say rr?? i must be loosing it).. kj rockz has the best idea i couldve ever thank of, (at least alot cheaper than what im attempting to do).. get a v6 for ur "daily driver" and a v8 for ur "sunday car"..
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Old Mar 9, 2002 | 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by TFM4th
also, i just found out that stock 2002 monte carlo 3.4L engine comes stock w/ 180HP, would that engine fit easily into my firebird?? if not easily, can it be done
fwd, buddy.

however, you can get me the motor, and I'll put it in my grand prix.

just like our 2.8--->3.4 swap

3100----------->3400
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 12:07 AM
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fwd, buddy.

however, you can get me the motor, and I'll put it in my grand prix.

just like our 2.8--->3.4 swap

3100----------->3400
oh well.. here ya go http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eb...886945&r=0&t=0
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 01:29 AM
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That ebay item looks like for a FWD drive. Don't know if the engine mounts will fit for a RWD.
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 12:56 PM
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yeah it is FWD. I'd love to put in in the grand prix -- If I had 2k lying around. but if I did have 2k lying around i'd put in a L67. (GTP motor, supercharged 3800).

I wouldn't waste 2k on the motor for the GP or a 3rd gen, I'd rather waste 2K for a fuel injected Big Block 427 for the Impala.

A thirdgen is nice, but a classic piece of big block muscle car era iron is better.
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Old Mar 11, 2002 | 08:29 PM
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Get aftermarket pullies from www.jetchip.com, they add up to like 40hp so that would get u close for like $300 if thats not to much for u.
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Old Mar 11, 2002 | 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by 1stgenracer
Get aftermarket pullies from www.jetchip.com, they add up to like 40hp so that would get u close for like $300 if thats not to much for u.
40 Horse power!! Please tell me your joking!!!! More like 4 horse power for 100 with the belt. I have them. They are not too bad.

If you want 200HP
Put the;
2030 Cam
1.52 Roller Rockers
Custom Burned Chip
Ported TB and Intake
Headers
Cat
Exhaust
Custom CAI
Larger Injectors
Ignition Set Up

With all that TFM it should give you those numbers, but it will cost you alot of jack$$$$. We are talking flywheel here to. Not rear wheel.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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I would just do a 3.4L build up with FWD heads/intake/ignition- it'll run ya about 1500 to do it right and you'll have closer to 230 hp. (that includes a cam swap, good exhaust/intake, and a port and polish job.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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Wow...check out the date this was posted. I dont think these guys are worring about it anymore.
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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sorry- I just try to help out where I can and I figured somone probably has this question. I know the people on the board like to keep the threads current, but to me any information is useful information (pending that its correct).
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