The right way to do 18 inch GTA wheels
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And right there is the kicker....DOT standards.....You might build a fully billet wheel for a show car, or something that sits around, maybe Sunday driven on short trips to a car show & back, but most likely driven on to a trailer, then off the trailer & parked to show. Nobody will ever make a fully billet aluminum wheel to meet DOT standards. They'd hafta built several sets, subject them to crash/stress/strength tests to certify them, yet ruin them for any future use. Then wait for approval. No gonna happen. Really wanna spend $50,000 to certify a $5000 set for DOT?
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He obviously wont ever reveal his MFG. due to him re-selling the product.
But, his pricing is right in line with Boyds. $3,500 a set is fair market value for those (beings they are 18's).
But, his pricing is right in line with Boyds. $3,500 a set is fair market value for those (beings they are 18's).
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Still Zero bids.
This is why MFG's aren't jumping at the chance to make stuff like this. People want and want rims like these to be made and people say that there will be tons of people waiting to buy them etc. etc.. But, when they finally come out, people b!tch about the price and never put their money where their mouth is.
The guy did a good job on them and I hope he sells a bunch. They would look really nice on a Firebird.
This is why MFG's aren't jumping at the chance to make stuff like this. People want and want rims like these to be made and people say that there will be tons of people waiting to buy them etc. etc.. But, when they finally come out, people b!tch about the price and never put their money where their mouth is.
The guy did a good job on them and I hope he sells a bunch. They would look really nice on a Firebird.
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Just my .........
Maybe nobody wants to spend $3500 on custom wheels from an individual, made by an unknown source, on eBay? There is no way to know the strength/durability/material quality of them.
If the seller said the manufacturer, then he might have a better chance of selling them.
.........Maybe nobody wants to spend $3500 on custom wheels from an individual, made by an unknown source, on eBay? There is no way to know the strength/durability/material quality of them.
If the seller said the manufacturer, then he might have a better chance of selling them.
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those are badass. Great look AND its a 3 piece wheel... Priceless!
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Well, let's say they came from Boyds, HRE, Fikse, or Foose just to name a few. Then would you purchase a set for that asking price beings you knew they came from a quality MFG. ?
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I don't think there will be many people here wanting to buy them at that price, maybe if they were under 2k.
Not sure they would even look good painted gold, might be to much bling lol.
Not sure they would even look good painted gold, might be to much bling lol.
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At least somebody found more information from the (supposed) owner. I haven't heard anything from him regarding my post or PM.
No need for anybody to get into a pissing match over this stuff. The entire purpose of this thread was to show a wheel similar to the GTA that has been well executed - not to see who can make wheels, how cheap thirdgen owners are, or anything else.
Now if anybody finds any info on these more than what has been posted, please share. I'm going to continue drooling over them
No need for anybody to get into a pissing match over this stuff. The entire purpose of this thread was to show a wheel similar to the GTA that has been well executed - not to see who can make wheels, how cheap thirdgen owners are, or anything else.
Now if anybody finds any info on these more than what has been posted, please share. I'm going to continue drooling over them
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The info is this:
That guy is having them MFG'd some place that he will never disclose. He started a resale company to sell these call Blacksmith Forged (or something like that) and he's re-selling them for $3,444.99 a set plus shipping. If you dont want to start from scratch to have a set made directly from a different MFG., then that's the price you'll have to pay if you want them...
That guy is having them MFG'd some place that he will never disclose. He started a resale company to sell these call Blacksmith Forged (or something like that) and he's re-selling them for $3,444.99 a set plus shipping. If you dont want to start from scratch to have a set made directly from a different MFG., then that's the price you'll have to pay if you want them...
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Yeah Mike - I was reading over his post on turbobuick - the ebay add is the real deal. For a one-off set of prototype wheels, his price is CHEAP. I'm unsure what it would take to mount these on a GTA (and wheel spacers with your $3500 wheels is kinda lame). I'm hoping he sells these and then begins selling more - because at some point I'd like a set with the right backspacing etc.
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If I'm not mistaking, the $3,500 is HIS price... according to what I saw on his EBAY add.
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I heard Stephen bought the last set and used a dremel to remove the manufacturer info off the back of one of the spokes.
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Not even close. I have my ROH Snypers that have been custom widened & powdercoated. Even if I was on 15" steelies with a mud tire on 1, a street tire on another & steel studded ice tires on the other 2....I still wouldn't shell out such a high price for any wheel. Not even with tires included, mounted & balanced and with free shipping. But all that is ME! Quit worrying about what *I* would do with *my* car. You go do whatever you want to to yours, OK? Last edited by Stephen; Jun 23, 2010 at 08:18 AM. Reason: typos fixed
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I may just walk down the street and ask my neighbor what he would charge. I know he does custom wheels, says so on his website. I dont think the cost if 3500 is what he paid is all that far out of line though.
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Yeah Mike - I was reading over his post on turbobuick - the ebay add is the real deal. For a one-off set of prototype wheels, his price is CHEAP. I'm unsure what it would take to mount these on a GTA (and wheel spacers with your $3500 wheels is kinda lame). I'm hoping he sells these and then begins selling more - because at some point I'd like a set with the right backspacing etc.
When I sold a set of my GTA wheels 9 years ago, the buyer said they had to be front wheels, which is what I had.
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Not even close. I have my ROH Snypers that have been custom widened & powdercoated. Even if I was on 15:crazy4" steelies with mud tires on 1, street tires on another & steel studded ice tires on the other 2....I still wouldn't shell out such a high price. Not even with tires included, mounted & balanced with free shipping. But all that is ME! Quit worrying about what *I* would do wit *my* car & you go do whatever you want to to yours, OK?
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Besides....Those are too skinny to go on my car. I wouldn't go down in tire size from my 315s. I'd only go up.
I find it hilarious that I find posts here like yours, that continue to try to poke "insults" at ME. Am I that important to you guys that you just can't resist posting comments about what I'd do with wheels? Give it a rest & go on with your lives. Or do you guys not have one? :roflmao:
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I find it hilarious that I find posts here like yours, that continue to try to poke "insults" at ME. Am I that important to you guys that you just can't resist posting comments about what I'd do with wheels? Give it a rest & go on with your lives. Or do you guys not have one? :roflmao:
The 18" Crosslaces turned out nice and I like to see them on a Thirdgen Bird!
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Wake up......Your dreaming!
Besides....Those are too skinny to go on my car. I wouldn't go down in tire size from my 315s. I'd only go up.
I find it hilarious that I find posts here like yours, that continue to try to poke "insults" at ME. Am I that important to you guys that you just can't resist posting comments about what I'd do with wheels? Give it a rest & go on with your lives. Or do you guys not have one? :roflmao:
Besides....Those are too skinny to go on my car. I wouldn't go down in tire size from my 315s. I'd only go up.
I find it hilarious that I find posts here like yours, that continue to try to poke "insults" at ME. Am I that important to you guys that you just can't resist posting comments about what I'd do with wheels? Give it a rest & go on with your lives. Or do you guys not have one? :roflmao:
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Show me....Show me where you posted or PM'd me saying that you had contacted Boyd & that he was willing to make them. Make me eat my words.....
The closest I ever got to having them made, was "Pay up UP FRONT, for a full set, then we'll start the design work." And they wanted to sell TEN SETS! $16,000 up front, before any deign work was even started beyond "Yes, we can make them.". No....I'm not dropping $16,000 just to pen to paper/pixels on a computer screen. $1600/set isn't that bad. $16,000 just to start is......
Just like in your thread about your wheels when they were made. I made a simple post about the cost or design & people comes down on me because *I* do not like the price. Wow. I don't like it. Big deal. I can't believe so many people put so much of their effort into about my dislike for stuff. Move on people...It's not that important that I don't & have zero effect on you or your life.
The closest I ever got to having them made, was "Pay up UP FRONT, for a full set, then we'll start the design work." And they wanted to sell TEN SETS! $16,000 up front, before any deign work was even started beyond "Yes, we can make them.". No....I'm not dropping $16,000 just to pen to paper/pixels on a computer screen. $1600/set isn't that bad. $16,000 just to start is......
Just like in your thread about your wheels when they were made. I made a simple post about the cost or design & people comes down on me because *I* do not like the price. Wow. I don't like it. Big deal. I can't believe so many people put so much of their effort into about my dislike for stuff. Move on people...It's not that important that I don't & have zero effect on you or your life.
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Here you go....google is your friend 
Only $3444 for a set....what a bargain.
http://www.dragtimes.com/parts/18-GN...504734843.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...4843&viewitem=
Only $3444 for a set....what a bargain.
http://www.dragtimes.com/parts/18-GN...504734843.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...4843&viewitem=
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however, if these wheels could be done it a 2pc (not a really hard thing to do) the price would be muich better. For that matter, if I could get them built to any width/offset i want, i would take a set of 2pc ones.
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