This is a fantasy I have. It seems like you would just need much longer bolts and you could fit another wheel on. Maybe make the inner wheel thinner. I would think this would give the wheels more traction (although it might decrease torque?) plus, if you got a flat on a rear tire you could keep driving. Has anyone seen this done on a camaro/trans am? Would the bolts snap if you just made the 5 that are there longer? Would you need more/thicker bolts?

 

The concept has been around for some time, but never made it into the mainstream. It was started with European luxury and sports cars. I came across a shop that was selling them in Southern California in the early 90's. Check out the LA Times article from 1988.

http://articles.latimes.com/1986-03-...ess/fi-26799_1

 

Honestly...... Not to be mean but this has got to ge the dumbest idea I have ever heard of. If you want more traction, do suspesion mods and wider tires, don't try to add
another tire!!! If you want a dually go buy a truck.

 

If you have that much room get a wider tire wheel combo. It would require a lot more then longer bolts your talking about a custom rear end and a lot more then a mini tub. But if you have the fab skills I say go for it I bet it would be one of a kind.

 

That's cool, too bad they didn't make it big. That mentions another advantage I didn't think of, the tires would last longer.

Haters gonna hate. Did you miss the other advantage? With dual wheels you can keep driving if you get a flat.

Well the extra wheel would just stick out the side, into the street, they wouldn't be under the wheel well, or they would be partially under if the inner tires were thinner.

 

Oh then that is an easy fix just put on some fender flares and you will be set. Take some pics if you do it and let us know how the 10 bolt holds up.

 

Well like I say it's just a fantasy right now. I wouldn't even bother with bigger fenders just let em stick out, unless, is that a legal requirement?

 

Put me down as a hater too.. this is just ridiculous on so many levels

 

Haha, I'm used to this response. As you can see though my car is already pretty ridiculous.

 

I am not a hater, but this is just not a good idea, if it were, we would see alot more of it.....

 

I agree, would completely ruin the look of your car. Just a bad idea in general.

 

look, if you manage to squeeze 2 tires on each size, there will still be a space between the tires, (lost potential contact area) and the 2 narrow tires will have a smaller contact area that a single tire the same width.

forget it, need more traction, use a wider wheel and tire, you can fit a 11" wide wheel on the back of the car with a little work. IT will get you more traction than 2 5" wide tires ever will. Except maybe in the snow...

 

Chalk this one up with putting a VTEC or Cummins diesel motor into a thirdgen, making a fourwheel drive thirdgen, a rally thirdgen, cutting up a perfectly good IROC for a damn shoebox, and whatever other ridiculous ideas people have had over the years.

And yes, having a tire stick outside of a vehicle is dangerous and illegal. A for effort in thinking outside the box, F for fail in not thinking of something cool.

 

Once again, dual wheels have the advantage of if one blows out you can keep driving. Also I would think the gap between the tires would be great for driving in heavy rain.

A fourwheel drive rallycross thirdgen would be awesome too, that's something else I dream about.

 

are you serious?

 

Yes, water would be channeled into the groove between the tires, just like it is channeled into the grooves on the tires themselves giving the water a place to escape instead of being trapped under the tire and causing you to hydroplane. With really wide tires it's hard for the water to escape, unless they have very big grooves (and the bigger the grooves the less surface area for traction on dry land =p)

 

WOW!!! REALLY?........

 

Yes...

"Hydroplaning, also known as aquaplaning, is the condition where a layer of water builds up between the tire and road surface. Hydroplaning occurs when the tread pattern cannot channel away enough water at an adequate rate to ensure a dry footprint area. When hydroplaning occurs, the tire effectively "floats" above the road surface on a cushion of water – and loses traction, braking and steering, creating a very unsafe driving condition. When hydroplaning occurs, there is considerably less responsiveness of the steering wheel. The correction of this unsafe condition is to gradually reduce speed, by merely lifting off the accelerator/gas pedal.
Hydroplaning becomes more prevalent with wider tires; it is of virtually no concern to bicycle tires under normal riding conditions."

 

no i was saying wow really to the idea of this.. .. im being a hater.. sorry.. just my 2 cents...

 

If that's a picture of your car with the crap painted all over it IMO you car has already been ruined. Go ahead with the dual idea 'cause it would look too much worse than now. (I know I'm a hater too)

 

O.K. , i am going to say go for it . take lots of pics. , keep track of work , keep track of expense , give a report on how it handles . then give us report on how very "STUPID" & "EXPENSIVE" your "IDEA" is . also how you ruined a good decent car .

 

You guys need to remember that this is his car. Sure you guys can hate and not like his idea, but in the end its still his car to do what he wants with. I for one would like to see this done to a third gen. I think if your good at fabbing things the benefits of this would definitely make it worth while

 

This is, hands down, the trashiest idea I have ever--EVER--heard of for these cars.

 

The biggest advantage of dualies is to help stabilize the back end of a truck towing a trailer......... So, if you are looking to tow that trailer from one park to another using your Thirdgen, then dualies might make sense.

On the other hand, you have just contributed to the thread of "How come my Thirdgen doesn't get any respect" and associated similar ones.

 

If you are gonna do the mod, try to find one of those special olympics editons, will prolly go with the theme a lot more. Some people just have no clue. Who cares if u could keep driving unsafely on one of your rear tires after u got a flat, I drive a dually truck and if u get a rear flat u gonna stop and change it or u gonna lose that tire of the rim when it starts to shred. duh. The flat tire is still spinning!!!!!!!

 

To be honest with you.... The only way duallies will fit on a 3rd Gen. is if they are 22' inch Dubs. Good luck!

 

this thread needs locked... because it was clearly done just to stir up ppl and be totally ignorant

 

I say go for it. Just to **** off the haters here that can't comprehend that it is YOUR car, not theirs, and that YOU can do whatever the hell you want to do to YOUR car.

And yes.....Dual wheels WOULD reduce hydroplane possibilities in rain. But I say do it to the rears only. Front tire room is already limited as it is for turning wide front tires (or dual front tires).

You won't find any Dually wheels in the 3rd gen lug pattern, so you'd need adapters (like when running 4th gen wheels) or swap in a truck dually axle & that would require custom fabbing to get it to bolt in.

 

You can search for s-10 dually adaptors and run those but I don't think it would look to good on a 3rd Gen car but to each their own .

 

Something tells me that there was a major materials advancement that made the advantages of dualies on all corners go away. No way that much improvement got overlooked because they thought people wouldn't like it.

As mentioned above, the need for DRW is primarily for towing. Thats why you see it on trucks & not cars.

However, this could be an interesting case study with modern tires and duals on all corners.

 

"get a flat and keep driving" ...you just going to sling the tread off of the bad tire and tear up your car and hurt yourself or someone else? another bad idea.

 

I'd drive it!

 

^ I want it. you could float down rivers in that thing!

 

Well....Obviously you'd only drive to a safe, flat spot to pull the flat tire/wheel off. THEN you could drive on to the tire store & get a new tire.

Nobody is dumb enough to just keep driving down the highway, with a flat tire flopping around.

 

You'd be surprised. I heard of a guy once that wanted to turn his camaro into a DUALLY!

 

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if the inside tire goes flat you can drive on it for awhile, its not as noticeable. ye olde work truck did that a few times, pretty sure i drove on it awhile before i noticed it. not saying its smart or a good idea though

 

Run head first into a wall repeatedly until you cant remember what you are doing

 

sure they are, i see it all the time. I even watched a guy drive PAST me on the highway with his entire exhaust dragging on the ground, sparks and all. Didnt even slow down.

 

Would you say this guy is obsessed with BIG FOOT ? lets do away with the stock exhaust and add some smoke stacks while we're at it , this should give you less exhaust backpressure and 100000000000 HP and two really fat chicks worth of torque

 

It's a Ford! Why would I waste my time?

 

Yes, endorse that image of trash for your own site!

"haters"...? Really??? It's kinda stupid to call members on your site "haters" like a 12 year old tough kid just because we don't like something that obviously isn't going to be popular, and for good reasons. It's a pretty poor and immature response from someone who is the face of this site, IMO. Personally I'd expect better than to be called a "hater" for something like this.

I don't think anyone really cares what the guy does to his car, it already looks like it's beat and not going to win any awards. But some of us do care about the trailer trash stereotypes of us and our cars out there, and when the admin of the main thirdgen site advocates something so stupid, it really doesn't help our cause. Believe it or not, there are reasons why some things have never been done--because they are completely and utterly, and universally retarded, like this. This is almost worse than a 4x4 Camaro.

The other thing is that it's a safety issue; you said you don't think anyone is dumb enough to keep driving down the highway with a flat, but the very person who came up with this cockeyed idea seemed to do it for exactly that reason:

We'd like to get OUT of the trailer park someday...?

I've certainly lost some respect for this site, and even more than I already had lost over the last 12 years for the owners of these cars.

My guess is you will now either delete my post, lock the thread, ban me, or a combination of the three.

 

 

There is just no reason for the haters for be posting their talk there has been. Yes, people are entitled their OPINIONS. Doesn't mean is it right to be talking their trash.

The OP is entitled to do what HE wants to HIS car. What do the haters care? If others "trash" their cars, that only increases the value of the other "good" cars, right?

Think about it.....The haters should be THANKING people who devalue (in their opinion) other 3rds gens, since it only serves to increase the value of their car.

 

wanna add the low rider thirdgen that came out on ebay months ago with hydrolics, 100 spoke daytons chopped off roof and tiger skin upholstery



<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Hater.....

OP, Possible? everything is possible
Practicle???? hmmmm Dnt think so.

 

I think you may be confused. To clear the record, Stephen was one of five that co-founded ThirdGen.org back in the 90s. I don't think Stephen would be "the face of this site" and is not an owner of the site. The site hasn't been owned by any of the founders for almost the past 4 years. Stephen is also not an Administrator, nor a Moderator.

Stephen can't do any of the above as he's not a Moderator or Administrator.

There's going to be people that customize their car, to their own taste, and it certainly is not confined to ThirdGens.