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Old May 25, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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Roll bar / cage

Is there any company that makes roll bars are small 4 or 6 point cages for our cars. I am trying to find a cage that will let me still use my back seats. I want to add the cage to help strengthen the frame and make it safer in case of an accident. I did some searching but almost every cage I say was custom built or they had a bar going across the back seat area.
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Old May 25, 2003 | 01:38 PM
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I looked for the very same thing a while back as I don't wish to make the back seats inaccessible and don't wish the diagonal bars adjacent to the front seats/door cards. Unfortunately I couldn't find any companies that sell one 'off the shelf' that fitted with my specifications.

89 Iroc Z - Did you get any prices for a custom 4 or 6 point that complies with NHRA rules?
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Old May 25, 2003 | 04:30 PM
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89 Iroc Z - Did you get any prices for a custom 4 or 6 point that complies with NHRA rules?
I have not found anyone who makes cages for our cars. I am not really looking for a cage that passes NHRA rules; it would be an added benefit if it did, but I just want something to add safety to my car. I am not planning on drag racing my car; maybe take it to the track once a year or something for fun.

TPI383 posted this pic in his targa top post. This would work perfect, anyone know who makes this???
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Old May 25, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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Hey man.. I didnt know you were talking about that Pic in my other post.

That is a Kenny Brown cage... almost $600 and not NHRA legal.

The one I PMed you about was the 8 point Comp. Eng one Im puting in my convertable.
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Old May 25, 2003 | 08:50 PM
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check with "swracecars.com", they have a large variety of cages/roll bars for our cars and they're pretty cheap too, also they are nhra legal.
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Old May 25, 2003 | 10:02 PM
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summit or jegs has them
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Old May 26, 2003 | 02:50 AM
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What about the Jegster 4 point, can you still get easy access to the back seats with this cage?
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Old May 26, 2003 | 04:09 AM
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a 4 point would be the Main Hoop and the back bars. if your worried about back seat entrance Just leave the cross bar out of what ever you get.

Why not do a 6point with atleast swing out side cars.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by TPl383
a 4 point would be the Main Hoop and the back bars. if your worried about back seat entrance Just leave the cross bar out of what ever you get.
Good Idea but will the bars that go back be to low for someone to sit in the back?

Why not do a 6point with at least swing out side cars.
What do you mean by this, I don't know much about cages.


I really like the Kenwood cage because it bolts together so you can take it out of the car if ever needed, which would be nice when doing interior wok or something. In addition, the back bars are bended for more rear passenger clearance. However, the cost is out of my price range.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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those kits are designed for strength,why would you leave any of it out? If your lookin for safety and not just the "look" then id go with the welded cages not the bolt together ones
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Old May 26, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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my cage doesn't have a bar across the backseats but i don't know where you can get one, mine was installed by guldstrand back in 1983
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Old May 27, 2003 | 07:20 AM
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From the should of It your not really wanting a cage for NHRA qualifications. Why not just do just like the last pic Vettetrax posted.

Swing out side bars is a option for the 2 bars that go from the Main hoop to the front floorboard. They have a pin you can pull out and the bar swings open.

But Like I said from the shoulds of it Just buy a main Hoop for a 3rdGen. http://store.summitracing.com/partde...CEE%2D3130%2DA

This is the rest for a 8 point cage
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...art=CEE%2D3000

Just leave out what you dont want.

Under $200

or Spend the $$ and get the Kenny Brown cage as pictured above.
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Old May 27, 2003 | 09:32 AM
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i still don't understand why anyone would want just the look. they are designed for safety. putting one in just for looks would just make it difficult to get into the car and have no safe attributes.
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Old May 27, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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Vettetrax: That looks like a autopower cage

TPl383: good thinking that is definitely the cheapest way to go. I guess you could put the rear bar to go like the picture above with the summit kit.

I am going to do a lot more research before I decide on one. The leaning towards the summit cage because of cost. I really wish I could get a similar front two bars like the Kenny Brown cage and attach them to the summit cage.


Here is a list I have compiled of people who make cages for our cars (If you know of any others let me know):
- Kenny Brown
- S&W Race Cars
- Competition Engineering
- Chassis Engineering
- Autopower

Does anyone know a website were you can purchase Auto powers products?

I really like auto powers cage also because it has removable cross braces as seen below
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Old May 27, 2003 | 09:40 AM
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Another Auto Power cage
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Old May 27, 2003 | 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by mw66nova
i still don't understand why anyone would want just the look. they are designed for safety. putting one in just for looks would just make it difficult to get into the car and have no safe attributes.
I am not going just for look. A bolt in cage will help with safety, not as much as a weld in one true but it will still help. I want added safety and still be able to put 4 people in my car. I am in college and I routinely drive more then 1 passenger around.
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Old May 27, 2003 | 10:49 AM
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Well, put tons of padding on those bars and make your passengers wear helmets

Speaking from experience, I'd rather rap my head against the plastic interior rather than some cold unforgiving steel.
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Old May 27, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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If your not worried about NHRA regulation do this...



get the 6point cage from CE. and just put the swing out gussets on the both sides of the bars you would want to remove. Easy as that..

The back bar that goes across the seat. so you cant take it out.

another thing. You can always mount the Side bars that go past the seats as Low as you want for easy acess in if you dont do the pins to swing em out.
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Old May 27, 2003 | 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by 89 Iroc Z

Here is a list I have compiled of people who make cages for our cars (If you know of any others let me know):
- Kenny Brown
- S&W Race Cars
- Competition Engineering
- Chassis Engineering
- Autopower

Spohn makes cages for our cars. Link at the top of this page.

-Schultzy


***===> EDIT <===***

I see that Steve is actually selling S&W brand so never mind.

-Schultzy

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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 01:30 AM
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OK, for that main hoop one from summit, it says its made of
1 3/4" tubing, is it me or is that super pinner!!! Is that safe at all!!??

Is this the same thickness as the one VetteTrax has in his car???
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by LowCamaro
OK, for that main hoop one from summit, it says its made of
1 3/4" tubing, is it me or is that super pinner!!! Is that safe at all!!??

Is this the same thickness as the one VetteTrax has in his car???
Chevrolet/Pontiac: 1982-92 Camaro/Firebird, 1 3/4 in. O.D., .134 in. wall thickness, for use with 8-point strut kit, main roll bar hoop

This main roll bar hoop from Competition Engineering is made from mandrel-formed, .134 in. wall, mild steel tubing. Exceeding the requirements of the NHRA and the IHRA, this main hoop will provide you with added chassis strength for quicker launches and increased safety in the event of a crash. It's computer-designed for uniform thickness and a specific fit for your vehicle.

Im sure its fine if it EXCEEDES the requirements of both NHRA and IHRA
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 10:17 AM
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OK but stop to look at Vettetrax's roll bar, now i cant see the thickness of his bar as 1 3/4"... more like 2 1/2". It just seems to me like it would look a little too pinnerish...
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by LowCamaro
OK but stop to look at Vettetrax's roll bar, now i cant see the thickness of his bar as 1 3/4"... more like 2 1/2". It just seems to me like it would look a little too pinnerish...
Yes his Looks larger od diamater but that doesnt mean Its Thicker material used.


Heres a pic of mine being test fited
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/Car...3/DSC00331.JPG

http://www.cecoatings.com/images/Car...3/DSC00329.JPG

http://www.cecoatings.com/images/Car...3/DSC00328.JPG

http://www.cecoatings.com/images/Car...3/DSC00327.JPG

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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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What size is that one you have TPI383? 1 3/4" i.d?
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by LowCamaro
What size is that one you have TPI383? 1 3/4" i.d?
Yep Mine is the CE one from Summit.
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