Hey guys,
Everytime I type Iroc-Z on ebay, I get some nice Iroc -Z's. Then I take a look at the engine pic. 305 TBI. That would be the L03 Engine found in the 88 + RS/Sport Coupes. Many people are being fooled into thinking this is a geniune Iroc Z. Here is a perfect example : http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1834021448
I feel that there should be some way to let people know that these things are fake, as all people do not know their Chevy History.

 

Granted: that one is fake. However, I own an '89 IROC Convertible with the L03 TBI - and it is an IROC (verifiable by the codes).

 

Everytime I type Iroc-Z on ebay, I get some nice Iroc -Z's. Then I take a look at the engine pic. 305 TBI. That would be the L03 Engine found in the 88 + RS/Sport Coupes. Many people are being fooled into thinking this is a geniune Iroc Z.

A lot of guys make an assumption that LG4/LO3 equipped Z28/IROC-Z's were never produced. I'm going to state right here and now that this is not true for most years. From 1985 - 1987, the base no-cost engine in the Z28 with and without the IROC-Z option was the 305 carb (RPO LG4). The 305 TBI (RPO LO3) replaced the LG4 in 1988 and became the base engine in the IROC-Z from 1988 thru 1990. Only in 1991 did the 305 TPI (RPO LB9) become the base no-cost engine in the Z28.

I feel that there should be some way to let people know that these things are fake, as all people do not know their Chevy History.

Agreed. But as you can see, not everyone researches the facts. Anyone can read any of the various publications on Camaros to know that the facts I state above about the engines are true. I even owned a 1987 "20th Anniversary Commemorative Edition" IROC-Z convertible with the no-cost LG4. I still have a copy of the original window sticker which lists the engine too.

And as for the link that's supplied above, I see nothing from the ad that makes me question the authenticity of this particular car. The VIN is inconclusive on LG4/LO3 equipped IROC-Z's because this engine was also installed in Sport Coupes and RS's.

 

I agree with Willie, I have been around these cars since they were new and believe the above link is a real Iroc.

It has been repainted, but all Iroc parts seem to be there.

T

 

As willie stated, there's no information listed that proves that the IROC is fake. If it is fake, he did a good job of faking a low-option IROC. It's got the L03 and 15" wheels. It looks like a regular good old low-option IROC that's either had a repaint, or had the decals removed.

 

I think its real also.

 

What makes me suspicious is that the fogs are obviously aftermarket, the door decals have been removed, and the rear decals have been removed. Either it's a clone or it's been recently repainted - very possible b/c the rear license plate bracket was painted red.

Perhaps it's real, just repainted.

 

I agree with Willie the car in question is probably a real Iroc. Some of the more egregious examples I've seen on Ebay are people putting IROC-Z decals on what is obviously a regular Z28. This happens on 85-87 Z-28's occasionally.

 

He might have just put some different ones on because maybe the original ones were rusted or something.

There was a decal delete package which removed the stripes and IROC-Z door decals.

The rear decal probably fell off. Mine hardly stays on.

I'm sure the bumpers have been painted. Very common for a 'old' car with plastic bumpers and red to fade. Mine have been repainted once at least.

 

maybe, but I can't imagine anybody going through all that effort to fake an IROC and do it with the 15" IROC wheels.

 

Based on what I see, it's a real IROC. Most people trying to clone the car usually only do the simple changes. This car even has the correct steering wheel. That's an expensive item to clone. The car was painted as can be seen by the red license plate holder. The guy obviously didn't spend alot on the paint, so he isn't going to spend a lot to put the decals back on or even the IROC badge on the rear. He isn't going to get any more for the car being an IROC than he would for any other 89 Camaro with 131k miles. The "fake" in this car doesn't appear to exist.

 

It doesn't look fake to me either.

Chet

 

You guys just made me feel real good about my '86SC. The original owner ordered every option available including the LG4 carb to simmulate a Z28/IROCC of this era. The original owner of my car just didn't want to spend the money for the Z but since the base engine was the same as a Z he felt he was getting a deal. The ebay IROC seems real. There are fakes on ebay and a potential buyer must do his homework which is what we here at thirdgen.org are here for, right.

 

Boy don't I feel stupid. I thought that the lowest engine possible for Iroc's after 87 was the TPI 305. I knew there was a carbed Iroc beforehand, but never knew they threw the LO3 into the Irocs. Sorry to offend you guys if I did in anyway, now that I think of it, that does seem real. But there are fake ones out there, like some of you stated. Well time to go, cya.